Posts by herk
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740The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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herk
The Way Trinitarians Read the Bible (Part Two)
What the Bible Actually Says at Genesis 1:26: And God said, Let us make man in our image.
The Way Trinitarians Read Genesis 1:26: And the Trinity said, Let us make man in the image of God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost.
What the Bible Actually Says at Genesis 3:22: And the LORD God said, Behold, the man is become as one of us.
The Way Trinitarians Read Genesis 3:22: And the Trinity said, Behold, the man is become as one of us members of the Trinity.
What the Bible Actually Says at Genesis 11:7: Let us go down.
The Way Trinitarians Read Genesis 11:7: Let us as God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost go down.
What the Bible Actually Says at Numbers 6:24-26: The LORD bless thee, and keep thee: The LORD make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: The LORD lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.
The Way Trinitarians Read Numbers 6:24-26: God the Father bless thee, and keep thee: God the Son make his face shine upon thee, and be gracious unto thee: God the Holy Ghost lift up his countenance upon thee, and give thee peace.
What the Bible Actually Says at Isaiah 6:3: Holy, holy, holy, is the LORD of hosts: the whole earth is full of his glory.
The Way Trinitarians Read Isaiah 6:3: Holy is God the Father, Holy is God the Son, and Holy is God the Holy Ghost: the whole earth is full of their glory.
What the Bible Actually Says at Isaiah 6:8: I heard the voice of the Lord, saying, Whom shall I send, and who will go for us?
The Way Trinitarians Read Isaiah 6:8: I heard the voices of the Trinity, saying, Whom shall we send, and who will go for God the Father, God the Son and God the Holy Ghost?
What the Bible Actually Says at Revelation 4:8: Holy, holy, holy, LORD God Almighty, which was, and is, and is to come.
The Way Trinitarians Read Revelation 4:8: Holy God the Father, Holy God the Son, Holy God the Holy Ghost, Holy Trinity Almighty, which were, and are, and are to come.
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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herk
The Way Trinitarians Read the Bible
What the Bible Actually Says at Matthew 3:16, 17:
And Jesus ... saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, ... And lo a voice from heaven, saying, This is my beloved Son.The Way Trinitarians Read Matthew 3:16, 17:
And God the Son ... saw God the Holy Ghost descending like a dove, ... And lo the voice of God the Father from heaven, saying, This is my beloved God the Son.What the Bible Actually Says at Matthew 28:19:
Go ... baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost.The Way Trinitarians Read Matthew 28:19:
Go ... baptizing them in the name of God the Father, and of God the Son, and of God the Holy Ghost.What the Bible Actually Says at John 1:1:
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word was God.The Way Trinitarians Read John 1:1:
In the beginning was God the Son, and God the Son was with God the Father, and God the Son was God the Son.What the Bible Actually Says at John 14:16:
And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter.The Way Trinitarians Read John 14:16:
And I, God the Son, will pray to God the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, God the Holy Ghost.What the Bible Actually Says at 2 Corinthians 13:14:
The grace of the Lord Jesus Christ, and the love of God, and the communion of the Holy Ghost, be with you all.The Way Trinitarians Read 2 Corinthians 13:14:
The grace of God the Son, and the love of God the Father, and the communion of God the Holy Ghost, be with you all.What the Bible Actually Says at 1 Peter 1:1, 2:
Peter, an apostle of Jesus Christ, to the ... elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of Jesus Christ.The Way Trinitarians Read 1 Peter 1:1, 2:
Peter, an apostle of God the Son, to the ... elect according to the foreknowledge of God the Father, through sanctification of God the Spirit, unto obedience and sprinkling of the blood of God the Son.Edited by - herk on 4 December 2002 10:32:4
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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herk
UnDisfellowshipped,
Has anyone informed you lately that you're a big cry baby? At least once before you had to be reminded about being touchy and holding a grudge.
I think words have just been put in my mouth that I never spoke.
That's a weird thing that's been happening to me lately in this Thread.
Once again, I think words have been put in my mouth:
And what is with all the Name-Calling here?
Now, I'm Un-Sensible (to go along with the huge list of other Names I have been called in this Thread).
Just like most of the other arrogant Trinitarians I know, you sit there and wimper when your arguments are shown to be totally without foundation in the Scriptures. If you had the Scriptures on your side, and If God were with you, you would have the utmost confident that "sticks and stones" won't break your bones and names will never hurt you. Your feelings wouldn't be hurt so easily. You would have the assurance that truth will ultimately triumph. Your frequent worries about what others think of you clearly demonstrate that you really don't have that confidence and assurance. And, because of being so self-centred rather than God and Christ oriented, and because you haven't learned how to use reason and logic, you often feel the need to respond with cockiness and lame-brain answers. Personally, I see no purpose in continuing to use reason with an unreasonable person. The Devil has succeeded in convincing you that the God of Christians is a freakish three-headed monster. You rarely read the Scriptures as they were meant to be read. Instead, you constantly read them only to find support for a pagan, God-dishonouring falsehood. You deserve to be mocked by the pictures I post, which are mainly for the enjoyment of those who see through your misguided thinking and deceptive teachings. Interestingly, you even have questions about graphic illustrations that even a child would understand.
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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herk
UnDisfellowshipped,
You can't even try to be sensible, can you?
Only if you're a "Oneness Pentecostal".
What I tried to show you is your inconsistency. Be honest about that. Look again at what you did with John 1:1:
John 1:1 is saying "The Word (Jesus) was with God (the Father) and the Word (Jesus) was God (the Son)."
In the same verse, you cannot give the definition of God one time as "Father" and another time as "the Son."
You already said that when Jesus and the Father are mentioned in the same verse that the Father in those instances is always called God. To be consistent, you have to say "and the Word was the Father."
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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herk
UnDisfellowshipped,
You wrote:
Hmmm, well, you know what, my experience with Unitarians hasn't been real good either.
So, you apparently agree with Meadow77 that it's much better to make false charges than to use the Bible to refute points of argument. Yep, just like your typical Trinitarian. They never fail to disappoint me. At least I can admire their consistency in that respect, if not in any other. -
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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herk
UnDisfellowshipped,
Isn't the following more consistent than the rendition you gave?
"In the beginning was the Jesus (the Word), and Jesus (the Word) was with the Father (God), and Jesus (the Word) was the Father (God)."
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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herk
Meadow77 had not even one Bible answer to the points I made in my last post to her. So what does she do? She does the only thing that any typical Trinitarian knows how to do: She makes up all kinds of false charges in an effort to tell me off.
No theologians or scholars can be accepted, unless they are used by you.
No greek or hebrew can mean something unless you say it does.
No translation is acceptable unless you use it.
God could not possibly be saying something unless you think it's clear.
You are a self righteous hypocrite.
Are you on drugs?
Liar liar pants on fire.
I am not sure I have ever meant someone as pompous as you.
You seem to have alot of growing up to to.