Herk and others, you make a good case. I don't believe that Jesus is God nor part of the Trinity nor any of that. Thanks.
Posts by Roddy
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The Trinity
by meadow77 intop reasons the wts is lying about the trinity.
their translation of john 1:1 is not only a complete farce but falls apart upon closer examination of their own beliefs.
the insertion of the phrase a god, instead of god is just a clear misinterpretation.
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Catholics Smell Like TED JARACZ
by Nathan Natas inyeah, the roman catholic church leadership in virginia smells just like the spirit-anointed "boss" at the watchtower bible & tract society.... a priest who exposed sexual misconduct by fellow priests in northern virginia faces unspecified charges within the roman catholic church that supporters fear could lead to his defrocking.. in a court deposition, the reverend james haley exposed the affair that another priest had with a married woman.
he accused two other priests of hoarding gay pornography and one of them of stealing from collection plates.. the three accused priests resigned, but haley's supporters say he's been on involuntary leave for a year and faces further disciplinary action by arlington bishop paul loverde.. in his deposition, haley said he was overwhelmed by the amount of homosexual activity in the priesthood, but was stonewalled by loverde when he provided evidence of impropriety.. news stories follow.... link: http://fredericksburg.com/news/fls/2002/122002/12022002/1038872022 .
whistle-blower priest in trouble with diocese.
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Roddy
Quandry >> Although I am still an active witness, in fact an elder, it is ONLY because of my family ties. I have already come to the conclusion that this organization does NOT have 'the truth', I have been able to detach God from any man made organization and maintain, in fact, strengthen my personal relationship with Him even more. <<
I'm not an elder but I was forced stepped down - and I'm glad. I feel a lot freer. I'm a JW too but basically inactive and I'm just under the radar screen. I do have friends who are elders. One that I grew up with and consider a good friend but is constantly sad, depressed even. He wasn't that way until about a year into his eldership. He puts up a good face but I know him better than that. I worry about him.
I've learned a lot of things here and from other sources. And, of course, the things you pick up from being in the 'truth' for a while. I'm sure not every disfellowshippment were because of fornication. I'm sure some were apostate charges. And I'm sure some who were driven out because of apostacy didn't go quietly but after giving the elders an earful regarding the organization.
I think my elder friend is having a crisis of conscience. He is not a stupid man. But I hope he survives. I'll be there for him.
I'm glad you are holding up. I'm also very glad that your relationship with Jehovah is stronger as a result. Good for you! For me the disillusionment was a heavy burden but I've learned that for some things the Org was a protection for me. Kept me out of troubles - glad I wasn't an elder's kid, a lot of them get away with murder. [smile] Now that I see the dangers in the Org and from my own 'faithful' friends, I keep my wits. I'm not bitter but so much of my life was a waste. I hope someday that the Org would reform. But I starting to see that that will happen only if the GB were to die or discredit themselves in a big way.
>>Anyway, the information that has especially bothered me is rumors about members of the GB, ie Greenlees, Sydlik, and Jaracz having allegations against them of pedophilia. I don't have the time to really investigate the validity of these accusations, nonetheless I am not quick to discard these allegations as just spurts from disgruntled xjws. If the GB could be responsible for so many injustices as are mentioned in Ray Franz's book COC, (I have not read the book completely, just excerpts here and there) what's to stop them from committing gross sexual sins and even worse ,continue to display such a "holier than thou" attitude? If in the end these allegations are proven, I have a strong feeling it will disenchant so many, it might really be the one card that brings the "whole" house down. <<
I've heard the same rumors. I think they have a basis in fact because I've heard of some wild and inappropiriate activities that have gone on in Bethel.
I think Franz's COC book has disenchanted many. Those that have generally leave or get kicked-out with disfellowshipping. Once they are out of the Org their threat is minimal. It is the very few of us who know that goes on and still continue flying under the radar that worries the Org. We are the cause of the GB's paranoia. They'd love to find us. [smile] But I've noticed through the years how assembly talks and even dramas have such a heavy current of obedience and loyalty to the Org. Even my long time JW friends notice and both tire and worry about it. To borrow a phrase from Princess Leia from Star Wars, 'The more they squeeze, the more we slip through out of their fingers.'
Hang in there, one and all!
Edited by - Roddy on 6 December 2002 1:30:40
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my little heartbreaker is gettin big
by flower inisnt he just the cutest?
these were taken at joy2bfree and jst2laws's place.
he can be such a ham.
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Roddy
Cute, flower. But at first I thought what mother would allow her son to play in the snow without proper clothing. Then I realized that it was sand. That's pretty white sand you have there.
So where is your pic?
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My JW story
by Aztec ini don't think any of this is really all that unusual so i'm sorry if you find it dull.
i was raised in the jw cult from birth, a third generation member to boot.
my family was full of elders, ministerial servants and overseers of all sorts.
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Roddy
Quotes >>I'm just chuckling at the thought of the "older men" asking all the lurid details at the JC.<<
They are nosey dirty old men.
Aztec, you shown remarkable restraint. I would have cut loose with exactly what I thought of their "investigation". You had the baby. That's the end of it. What else do they want? I think they secretly enjoy hearing, not the truth, but the intimate details. They view extracting information as God's work but it is verbal pornography. They fool themselves and they love it. They must really line-up for these kinds of cases. What's worse, they are not qualified. They are quacks, at best.
Arrgh! Makes me mad!
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Mormon scandal brewing in Washington State
by Mulan inmy youngest son brought this article to my attention.
very, very interesting.
it was in the seattle pi, yesterday, december 2.. student risks ire of mormons.
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Roddy
This article is impressive. One cannot help but see the disturbing similarities!
I wonder. No JW should object to reading and sharing this article. In fact, let's share it to all JWs. Let's be technical - it isn't apostate, right? LOL
Yes. Let the JWs read it, see the wrongness, and then let their conscience go to work! We can only hope they still have one.
Edited by - Roddy on 4 December 2002 15:40:19
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Holy Koran! Break out your calculator...
by back2dafront ini'm doing a little research on islam and the quran (koran) and i ran across the following website that explained why muslims think the koran is the only book inspired by allah.
i never heard of this before, and frankly, i don't know what to think of this.
does anyone have any insight on the significance of the mathmatics involved here?
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Roddy
I haven't been that interested in Muslims. I've known a few Muslims personally and they've been nice. I'm nice to all people. My attitude with Muslims is live and let live kind of thing even though I've been annoyed at the religious violence Islam inspires. But after 9/11, the suicide bombings of innocent civilians, and the continued terrorist assualts on innocents instead of on people who can fight back, I'm convinced this is a violent religion of fanatical idiotic cowards which lends itself to be exploited by self-serving apostles of hate or oil rich fatcats who starve their stupid uneducated people while they shift all the blame onto Israel and the West.
If the Great Tribulation begins with the destruction of Islam, good riddance! I'll be dancing in the street. Consider it payback for 9/11!!!
Please excuse my language but deleted
Edited by - Englishman on 4 December 2002 11:53:12
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Thank you "poster" who edited my rese...
by Cappuccino OC ina poster from this e-mail to the time to edit my first graduate research paper.
the poster e-mailed me & wished to remain anonymous.
even though i've had a tough quarter (1st yr. grad student), there have been many things that have brough smiles to my heart like the example above.
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Roddy
What is the paper about, Capp?
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Not Exactly "Announcing" Jehovah's Ki...
by BeautifulGarbage inas i stood at my kitchen window, i could see them walking by the front of my house.
are they going to make that turn and start the small climb up the driveway?
"groan"!
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Roddy
Andee >>When my Grandmother went door to door she PROUDLY proclaimed what she was, and who she represented. Granted this was in the late 60's, and perhaps JWs hadn't gotten the bothersome reputation they find themselves saddled with now. Even when my JW schoolmate and I would go out in service we would make clear who we were. How things have changed. <<
Hmm, you're right! It was eased in so slowly that I haven't noticed. I remember how we used to really proclaim Jehovah's Kingdom and really get the literature and the message in their faces.
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STATISTICS FOR 2002 SERVICE YEAR
by hamptonite21 in.
could some one post the annual report from the jan 1 wt?
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Roddy
I have a question for many years which even my JW friends wonder about. They notice the strangeness but, like me, just shrugged it off. Well, now I'm asking. :)
Why are so called 'lands' treated independently. For example, Alaska and Hawaii are treated as their own 'land' but not as USA. And the numbers for USA do not include the numbers for Alaska and Hawaii.
(Oddly enough, even the addresses of their branch offices are oddly written in the publications - with the zip code first then the address. So strange!)
The WTS quotes more lands and islands where the preaching work is done there are nations which you can look-up in any encyclopedia.
Very strange. Anyone have any idea why???
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GAH! Jehovahs Witnesses at my door!
by joannadandy inok so i am home this morning finishing a paper for class (that has to be turned in by five--shh!
no procrastination comments please--focus on the topic!
) when the doorbell rings.
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Roddy
This thread is getting really interesting.
I also think we need digital evidence.