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  Gh Gh Gh GHOST!!!!

  by RR in

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  2. scandals

  i just got back from columbus, ohio, where i attended a bible student convention, i stayed with some friends.

  one of the speakers was from san diego, ca.

  and we stayed at the same home, in the evening he was telling us about beth sarim, having live just a few miles from there.

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  Roddy

  <<Here's the strange thing. The family who live there are the original owners who purchased the house from the Society.Two sisters who grew up the house told this story. Their father shortly after living in the house became a drunk and womenizer. They say the house is haunted by the ghost of Rutherford's mistress, a blonde hair women who walks around the house.>>

  That is very interesting, RR.

  I've noticed during my upbringing that JWs are more superstitious than most people regarding spirits and the occult. They wouldn't go to garage sales nor get anything used nor accept anything that was prior owned unless it came from a JW family that is strong in the religion. They fear the constant possiblity that the previous people had evil spirit influences because they don't follow the "truth" and that even spirits attach to items they own. When you bring their items you bring those wicked spirits in too.

  I wonder what wild parties Rutherford did in that house - it being way at the other side of the country in an exclusive neighborhood, I assume, where the average JW family wouldn't normally afford a home there and notice the goings that goes on over time.
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  Your favorite Watchtower oddities

  by logansrun in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  you know, there are some things phrased that are just so, so....watchtoweresque.

  what are some things you see that remind you of some wt foibles?

  one thing that always cracks me up is when an article or book (or post) uses too many exclamation points.

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  Roddy

  Don't forget "theocratic". It doesn't seem to be used much in the current lingo of JW Frequently Used Words but during the Knorr and Franz periods, it was used all over the place from hair grooming to kinds of employment to personal attitudes.
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  GB member dies

  by Roddy in

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  2. scandals

  i heard that a gb member, milton henschel, died this past saturday 22 march.

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  Roddy

  I heard that a GB member, Milton Henschel, died this past Saturday 22 March.
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  Fraud by Elder costs $4.7M

  by patio34 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  miami-dade company founder to pay $4.7 million restitutionmarch 18, 2003. the associated press.

  raymond l. knowles, formerly of opa-locka and pembroke pines, was sentenced in january to four years and nine months in federal prison.. .

  he had been arrested in san antonio in april, then convicted of 16 counts of mail fraud, four counts of wire fraud and four counts of securities fraud in november.. .

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  Roddy

  If those that were bilked were true JWs in good standing, perhaps full time pioneers, and hoping for the new order just around the corner, they didn't have much life's savings to worry about losing.
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  Have We Really Been Lied To?

  by sandy in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  we were told that the brothers in mexico had been oppressed by the government, so that they could not sing or pray at meetings.

  we were not told that the society had registered as a "cultural" organization because religious organizations were not allowed to own property in mexico.

  as a "cultural" organization, the brothers were obliged to downplay the religious aspect.

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  Roddy

  I wonder if JR Brown is powerful enough to be a policy maker or he is just a well trained puppet on some short strings? Anyone knows who he really is in the org beyond his official title? I'm just curious. He talks like a polititian/lawyer in his videos.
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  Pioneering---Did It Make A Difference In Your Life

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  many of us pioneered.

  some here pioneered as "vacation", "temporary", "auxillary", "regular" or even "special" roles.

  nearly everyone was expected to pioneer, if you were to stay in the good graces of the congregation.

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  Roddy

  LDH >>it allowed me the privilege of driving a junky 1979 Chevy Nova for three long years! (you didn't really think pioneers could afford new cars, did you?!?!?) <<

  Funny you should mention that. It seems that the WTS demands much of pioneers yet by all accounts pioneers are forced to buy cheap run-down cars that are maintenance nightmares. And, of course, they have to add more wear and tear on those vehicles hastening the severity and frequency of maintenance. Pioneers are especially forced to put on a brave face, not murmur over their lot in life, be examples to the flock, and do their quota. All the good it did for those I knew. It makes me sad to remember those that have sacrificed higher education, well paying jobs with health benefits, retirement, and even marriage and children only to be washed-out and on their own. Not the WTS nor the elders will give them a bag of groceries for their years of faithful service, and giving the WTS and the congregation money they where guilted into not using on themselves for an ordinary simple pleasure.
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  Shuttle Explosion

  by RR in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  my sympathies go out to the families of those lost in the shuttle explosion.. .

  but you think with all the billions the society has they would have a message of comfort for these people.. .

  a full page ad in the paper, a short spot on the telly.

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  Roddy

  RR >> My sympathies go out to the families of those lost in the shuttle explosion.<<

  Hear hear! My sympathies also to those brave explorers that seek to expand Man's knowledge.

  >>But you think with all the billions the Society has they would have a message of comfort for these people.
  
  A full page ad in the paper, a short spot on the telly. They pride themselves on be God's people, why don't they show it? <<

  About three months from now I'm sure there will be a "timely" Awake cover article about it where they will use the shuttle explosion as a dogma vehicle for any single number of their common teaching points.
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  WTBTS (NY) building has asbestos:

  by sf in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm sure some have viewed this, yet others may have not:.

  http://216.239.53.100/search?q=cache:0iugk6ngcy8c:www.elslaw.com/jobsites_ny1.htm+new+york+world+fair+watchtower&hl=en&ie=utf-8.

  as you scroll:.

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  Roddy

  >>I expect that they are doing as best os they can.<<

  I suspect they will do nothing. Why should they?

  By transfering parts of the factory operations to their Wallkill facility and outsourcing production to other facilities, owned or not, they won't need those Brooklyn buildings anymore. Those buildings are in PRIME waterfront real estate areas. After layoffs where those severed will not get health insurance, severance pay, or other considerations they should save big time on labor expenses. They could rent or lease the properties and make a small fortune every year. Or sell the properties for a large fortune and let the problem be someone else's headache. I think they will do the latter. By making a large fortune in selling the properties, they can offset dwindling revenue for a number of years which by then they would have planned their next steps to keep the WTS existing.
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  Letter of thanks to the GOVERNING BODY

  by Fruitcake in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  dear beloved governing body members at bethel .

  i wanted to thank you for the fine job you all have been doing,,,,,,,you know, like dropping crumbs off the table to feed us your spiritual table scraps, and beating us, bearing us down with heavy loads, so many rules and regulations that nobody can follow...... .

  you all look nice in your suits and ties, reminds me of how fine the pharisses dressed with their long fringed garments.

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  Roddy

  Fruitcake, you addressed your letter to the wrong place. Look in a WTS publication for the USA address, print the letter out, put it in the envelope, and apply the necessary postage.
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  Odd Pioneer Stats

  by metatron in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  pioneer statistics from recent months:.

  sept. 2002 88,341. october 2002 91,101. november 2002 89,083. this looks odd.

  you would expect a large increase in sept. as.

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  Roddy

  >>This looks odd. You would expect a large increase in Sept. as
  kids getting out of school are pushed into pioneering - but it
  starts low, increases, and then drops by over two thousand
  in one month!<<

  Kids are staying in school! I guess persuing an exciting career in office or house cleaning is not appealing to the younger generation. I think the younger generation are not as lame minded as the WTS hoped they would get.