Posts by Roddy

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What is better? Disassociation or Disfellowshipping?

by Quarterback in

Roddy

Depends on your pride level.

Disassociation means you left them. Disfellowshipping means they kicked you out. Both means they announce you out at the next Service Meeting.

I've known those that during their Judicial Meeting they went out in a Blaze Of Glory giving those elders a earfull after earfull of their sins and being proud of that or giving them a well researched talk of WTS errors which they cannot disprove making those elders speechless.

Others simply left and never looked back.

I took the third alternative - I dropped out. And it's been so long they haven't given me a Shepherding Call for years.

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Why do JW's downplay older WT articles?

by mamalove in

i was looking at brotherdan's thread about the two articles that really point out in the wtbs's own words that we must follow this organization, blah blah, and they are indeed a cult from reading those articles.

it made me think that i would love to show my mom and sister that, but i know the response would be "so what, that is a 40 year old magazine," it was dated 1969, and 1983 was the other article i believe.. are the jw's i know the only ones who poo poo older articles and say that thinking isn't up to date anymore, that new thinking has superceded those new articles?

even though we know that the overall thinking is the same.

Roddy

1. The light gets brighter and brighter.

2. If an older Watchtower contradicts a newer Watchtower, the newer Watchtower is brighter.

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Loaded language for december tower

by booby in

reap blessings through god's spirit-guided king!.

19 among those "gifts in men" are the members.

of the governing body, who act in a representative.

Roddy

Are they still with the elders being the princes of the congregation and of the New Order? I thought they grew up from that self appointed royalty phase after the passing of Franz.

Sigh! Old teachings never die. They either are not mentioned or get recycled.

I guess there is going to be new discipline, rules, and regulations that's going to be delivered by the elders and traveling overseers soon. They are getting the rank and file ready now with obedience training.

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BOE LTR (PDF) Brazen Conduct !!!

by yknot in

i apologize to those in the vincinity of my spad's ladies bathroom....... yes!

oh my gaud!

give it to me baby!

Roddy

You guys are too much with the pictures! LOL

I hope there is an elder out there that will provide us all with the service of scanning the book and publishing it for the world to see.

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I finally did it

by doublelife in

jw
friends

i told my mom that i'm not going back to the meetings.

i wasn't planning on telling her that but i've been going through some hard times with my husband and just got fed up with her hounding me.

so she asked if i'll still consider going back to the meetings and i just flat out told her no and that it wasn't up for discussion.

Roddy

Expect a shepherding call just before the time the circuit overseer is scheduled to visit your congregation. One of the things the CO does is goes over every publisher's report card at the elder's meeting. When he gets to yours he is going to ask, "Did anyone visit this person?" A "no" answer always gets the PO and the elders into a lecture that after getting it once they don't want to hear it again.

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Ugly Sisters

by XPeterX in

jw
friends

o.k i have noticed that most female jws are ugly.and by ugly i mean ugly.they won't work out,they are fat and won't go on a diet (some female teens won't even shave their legs),they neglect their appearance/body in general.any opinions?.

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p.s many will eventually get fat after marriage.

Roddy

I disagree. While there were some homely ones, there were some that were really pretty. The only bad thing is some of those pretty ones knew it and it went to their heads big time.

Do you live near a petro-chemical company or a nuclear energy facility?

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stealing the collection plate

by diamondiiz in

as i was going over some more recent wt scandals i thought deeper about this parking pass donation scheme.

what's the scoop on this today?

i know that even 2 years ago when i still went to the conventions they advertised parking tickets on a donation basis in calgary so it got me thinking that the whole procedure sounds very similar to the one in tacoma.

Roddy

I think they have overused and altered the word "donation" since it entered their vocabulary in the early 90s.

My take on it is if the parking and convention are "free" why insist on a daily parking "donation"? Let me ask a follow-up question: Can I still park the car if refuse to donate or don't have the money?

I think it is a revenue generating gimmick to either pay for the expense of the venue, generate a bit of needed profit, or most likely both. It's a little bit of word play: the stadium seats are free but the stadium parking isn't.

I think by insisting that people bring their own meals they are encouraging people to take their cars. Who wants to carry their bookbags and their lunches, and those of their children, on the bus?

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The JWs have their own Trinity, and more

by Doug Mason in

the jws explanation of the human being jesus christ is an unreasonable, irrational trinity.. first he is a god with a divine nature.

but he is also an angel, so presumably has the nature of that level of created being.. then he is deprived of these natures and he only possesses the attributes of the human nature, albeit the nature possessed by the very first one, (homo erectus or neanderthal?

) adam and his wife eve.

Roddy

Sorry Doug but your criticism and the way you explained it doesn't make sense.

I can understand if you have an axe to grind against the JWs but you are grasping at straws here.

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Convention-Assembly CONTRIBUTIONS, Elder Experience Required

by V in

do you have experience as an elder and the contribution arrangement for assemblies or conventions?

an upcoming watchtower comments video will be exposing the resolution arrangement that makes this a cash-cow for the society.. i am particularly interested in recent experience, including countries other than the us.. let's get our facts straight and explain the ever-present "deficit" once and for all.. v. [email protected] .

Roddy

here's a link to Canadian Assembly hall's tax returns, compare some to each other. I know Norval, Ontario( 90% sure :) ) and Onoway, Alberta ( 100% sure ) don't have any kingdom halls in them and are strictly used for assemblies. I don't know why more didn't appear as I know there is one in Calgary that has 5 kingdom halls in it which is also used as an assembly hall.

I tried it twice. The link didn't work. Is there another way you can show the content? I'm curious.

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Convention-Assembly CONTRIBUTIONS, Elder Experience Required

by V in

do you have experience as an elder and the contribution arrangement for assemblies or conventions?

an upcoming watchtower comments video will be exposing the resolution arrangement that makes this a cash-cow for the society.. i am particularly interested in recent experience, including countries other than the us.. let's get our facts straight and explain the ever-present "deficit" once and for all.. v. [email protected] .

Roddy

I believe the Branch manual contains written instructions regarding how that works.

http://elsewhereishere.com/jw/branch_organization_manual_bo-e.pdf

Elsewhere, that is an excellent scan!! Did you have that manual professionally scanned? Just curious.