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What Happened to Magazine Day?

by Blueblades in

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generally,saturday is designated as magazine day.street magazine work may also be engaged in.the more people that read our magazines the better our preaching of the kingdom good news will be.. so what happened to magazine day?i remember when we used to " blitz "a four block area in a short period of time on saturday mornings.not anymore,we can't let them apostates get anymore of our magazines!

stop the subscriptions !

no more magazine day !

herself

Gosh, I remember back in the 1950s and 60s people standing on street corners holding up the magazines. It was wild down there then. On Friday nights the bible thumpers came out screaming that we were all going to hell. I worked on the third floor of a department store, and I could sit by the window on my breaks and hear them hollering.

Then on Saturdays the JWs would be standing in front of the store holding up the magazines.

Nothing like religion to bring out the fringe in all of us.

I never did RVs, always went out in door to door service. For some reason I loved it. Doors slammed in my face and insults only strengthened me in my resolve that we JWs were right and the rest of the world was ignorant.

H.S.

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The break between meetings

by freedom96 in

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when i was a young child, i remember there being a small break between the meetings.

you could get up, walk around, associate, and then go back in for the second half.

at some point, they changed it to where there was just the song.

herself

In the mid to late 70s there was a 5 minute break between the two meetings in my cong.

H.S.

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Do We Really Know Who Is Responsible For 9/11?

by SpannerintheWorks in

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to this date, it has never been proved who is responsible for the atrocities of the twin towers' destruction.

an absolutely appalling act.

who is responsible?

herself

email, I think a lot of people are confused. I think a lot of people have more questions than answers. I'm one of them. I wonder if putting all this effort into going after Iraq might be leaving other stones unturned, more dangerous ones.

Keep in mind that Bush is from Texas, and a lot of people think this is about oil. I have no idea or opinion on that.

Is that your picture? You're a cutie!

H.S.

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Do We Really Know Who Is Responsible For 9/11?

by SpannerintheWorks in

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friends

to this date, it has never been proved who is responsible for the atrocities of the twin towers' destruction.

an absolutely appalling act.

who is responsible?

herself

Truthseeker, you remember right. The news media did show a tape of Osama bragging how the devastation was more than they'd hoped for and they were very pleased. Something to that effect. I believe also that there was a tape showing him saying there was more to come. I've forgotten what was said exactly.

H.S.

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Do We Really Know Who Is Responsible For 9/11?

by SpannerintheWorks in

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to this date, it has never been proved who is responsible for the atrocities of the twin towers' destruction.

an absolutely appalling act.

who is responsible?

herself

I don't know a whole lot, in fact, I probably know nothing. But I would like to enter this discussion. I hope you will get serious responses from thoughtful people rather than a bunch of one-liners and radicals, either too liberal or two conservative. I like to hear all the responses, but I do hope you get thoughtful ones to your questions.

I don't know the whys. I think it could possibly be that the "war on terrorism" goes far beyond Osama Bin Laden and likely that is a correct path to take. I could be wrong.

The think I do not like, am decidedly uncomfortable about the United States taking a pre-emptive strike against anyone. But is this a preemptive strike? Was the Iraqi leader some way involved in 9/11? In some indirect way?

There is also proof, we've heard, that S.H. killed some of his own people with WMD. If he did that, it means he CAN do that, and can probably produce more. It also means he is a monster, someone to fear and someone not to be trusted.

I wish I knew the right thing. I wish I had the answers. I hope beyond all hope that the powers that be DO have answers that the rest of us don't.

H.S.

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Were You Ever a Member of the Secret Police?

by Swan in

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a lot of experiences have been written about elders spying on people, tailing them in cars, etc.

i think this may have once happened to me, but am not sure if my intuition was correct or if my mind was just playing tricks.

i sometimes have some paranoia as a result of the trauma of being in the jws, so i am not sure what to believe.

herself

Happyout, your posts begs the question....... Is it worse for a kid to run track in school or for an elder to lie?

H.S.

Edited by - Herself on 7 January 2003 16:6:25

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Lurkers Take Note! 'Apostacy' is Effective

by metatron in

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all you 'loyal' lurkers take careful note of what appeared in the watchtower recently:.

hard, cold proof that 'murmuring', 'rebellion' - and so-called 'apostacy' can force.

moral reform on the watchtower society!.

herself

I was raped as a 12 year old girl. I did not scream, I was speechless. My scalp was crawling with fear. I was not brutally forced down, but there was a gun pointed right at my chest. I was no match for the guy. He said he'd kill me if I screamed. We were out in the boonies, no one would have heard me scream, and if they'd heart a gunshot, it would have been from a distance, and likely people would have thought, "Was that a gun shot?" then they'd have gone on about their business.

I was a virgin, and he wasn't gentle, and it hurt a lot. I was trying not to scream while it was happening, because I was afraid he'd kill me. He put his hand over my mouth so hard, I could taste my lips. When he was done, he took a dirty rag and put his hand up inside me to wipe out evidence and to try to keep me from becoming pregnant. That hurt worse than the rape itself, probably it was part of the rape for him. It left an indelible impression on me. I did not become pregnant.

I never told anyone. I did not report him, because I was just a kid, and he told me that if I told, he'd come kill me and my parents and that no one would be able to stop him. I did not tell my parents in order to protect them. He was someone we knew, and he'd call me on the phone once in a while to remind me not to tell anyone. I didn't.

I don't know where he is now. I don't know if he is still alive. I have no real feelings about it anymore, except to realize that I should have told. But at the time I felt responsible to protect myself and my family from him. I was so young and naive.

When I later joined the WTBS as an adult, I never told them either, because at that time they were saying that if a woman went along with the rape, she was guilty of fornication. Since I didn't resist, I was guilty, according to them. Then other women in the cong, who'd never been raped, were saying things like, "I'd rather die than be raped." I never did understand that. If I had been shot, I wouldn't have married, would not have my children, would not have enjoyed the life I love so much. Why would they rather die than be raped? I wanted to live, and he had me, dead or alive right then. To live, I did not resist.

Was I actually raped? It sure felt like it to me.

H.S.

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Mass walk-out

by Elsewhere in

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in another thread heathen gave me a great idea.... http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/forum/thread.aspx?id=43769&site=3.

i'm always hearing apostates propose the idea of partaking of the emblems or passing out apostate literature at the memorial... but heathen has given me an even better idea.... a mass walk-out.

well, at least five people or so .

herself

I don't know about other countries, but in the USA, churches can legally serve communion to children. The Catholic Church does, and many Protestant churches do. The JWs are no different, they are classed as a religious organization and there is no legal problem with passing the wine.

H.S.

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HELP!!! Hubby turning home into 'Book Study'

by Skeptically Yours in

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my husband, who's a ministerial servant, was approached by an elder and asked if he'd offer our home to become a 'book study' meeting place.. i'm a bit of a loner, and need lots of peace, quiet, privacy, and solitude; plus to boot you all know i'm living this sort of double life, you know, just doing the very minimum to remain a witness.. this is awful!!!!!!!!!!

i can't deal with it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

take care!

herself

Something that bugs me about this whole thing is that the elder approached the husband and asked HIM. Wouldn't this best be a joint matter with the husband and wife?

What would happen if you told the elder yourself that you didn't think it would work out? He may question, but it isn't his business.

What is it that you are afraid of about your husband? Would he hit you? Would he put you down verbally in any way? Would he give you the cold shoulder? Would he yell at you? What happens that makes you feel that you need to be "spineless" with him? There must be some payoff for being spineless with him, or there must be some protection in it for you. Generally when one person in a relationship has no say, there's some reason for that.

Good luck, I wouldn't want one at my house either.

H.S.

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What is the worst.....?

by teenyuck in

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name you could call an old, bitter, hateful, ungrateful, sour woman?

i need some options when i next speak to my mother-in-law...

herself

Wouldn't you rather do what is best for yourself and family? The thing you can do to look good in contast to her is to not drop to her level, but to smile at her and tell her, firmly, but kindly, that you don't agree and won't accept that you deserve bad treatment from anyone, including family members. Or whatever the problem is.

My MIL spent many years trying to discredit me, trying to ruin my marriage. She was the MIL from hell. She was cruel and hateful to me, never giving me an inch. I fought back and made myself look bad when I was young. As I aged, I didn't want to fight anymore, didn't want to deal with it, so I started staying away. That enraged her even more, believe it or not. I believe that I was the person she was using as her whipping boy. If she was mad at anyone, she'd turn that anger on me, her son's wife.

When I wouldn't accept the treatment any more, she went on the offensive just horribly. But I found I just didn't care anymore. My husband didn't like her behavior, because she was trying to talk him into leaving me. So, he stayed away too, which made it even worse in that her gossip became horrible, just horrible.

She was the MIL from hell and created more bad memories for our children than she did good. None of them remember her fondly.

So, my advice. Remain cool and aloof and let her hang herself with her own behavior. Believe me, that will be far "worse" for her than if you fight back. People who are constantly brewing up fights just hate it when the object of their hatred won't fight. Drives 'em nuts.

H.S.