Posts by Crazyguy

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In The Name of Love, Need Your Opinion

by thankyou in

i'm non-jw.. been following this forum.

most of you folks have been through hell, but are still loving souls.

i'm reeeally impressed and glad to be here.. my question is at the end of this.

Crazyguy

You have been told already stop wasting your time, listen and save yourself a lot of grief.

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The fraud that is the WT member numbers

by Crazyguy in

ok i'm just thinking out load here so to speak.

but let say in the year 2000 the wt says they have 1 million publishers and at the end of the year they say they had 300,000 people get baptized so in the beginning of the year 2001 they show 1,300,000 publishers.

then in this new year they state another 300,000 get baptized but with 50,000 deaths and 50,000 disfellowshippings they stated at the end of year 2001 a total of 1,500,000 total members.

Crazyguy

OK I'm just thinking out load here so to speak. But let say in the year 2000 the WT says they have 1 million publishers and at the end of the year they say they had 300,000 people get baptized so in the beginning of the year 2001 they show 1,300,000 publishers. Then in this new year they state another 300,000 get baptized but with 50,000 deaths and 50,000 disfellowshippings they stated at the end of year 2001 a total of 1,500,000 total members. But wait a minute, the in the two years they report both 2000 and 2001 a total of ones baptised as 600,000 , 300,000 per year. But here is the thing, these baptised we're formally publisher's most likely kids and we're reported as such. So from the publisher ranks already counted they get baptized and are again counted. Does the WT make the proper adjustment in their numbers? I think no would be the answer, because if 300k we're once publishers then baptized would not they amount be zeroed out the next year? Or am I missing something? I smell a rat.

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Decrease of numbers in Jehovah's Witnesses via Deaths, DFings, or Turning Inactive

by flipper in

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so i'm sure a good number of us saw the chart that i believe the poster splash put on another thread of figures since 1990 regarding how many baptized and % of increase each year .

i started analyzing it ( and i know some referred to it briefly on the other thread ) and guessing of reasons the % of increase didn't match the number of newly baptized.

and of course common sense tells us that either jw's leave the cult each year through death, fading into inactivity, or getting dfed.

Crazyguy

One figure I was thinking about that scews the numbers is publishers. When a publisher gets baptized he is counted as a baptism maybe even counted twice that year but then the following year would the number then not have to go down because he is only counted as a publisher?

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The Horror of mom needing blood and almost dying...you dont want this!!!

by Witness 007 in

my mom was unwell for awhile bruises on her body....doc tells us she has a form of lukiemia.

of course "no blood" she is anointed and stubborn as hell.

her platelets (blood fraction 2% of blood volume) are 4 should be 150!!!

Crazyguy

Show your mom mark 7:18 where nothing taken in by a man can defile him. Matt 12 7-8 we desire mercy not sacrifice. Then show her the km we're the Borg says cows blood is OK.

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Should Jehovah`s Witnesses be worshiping Jehovah ? or Jesus.

by smiddy in

jehovah`s christian witnesses , as they like to be known as , used to worship jesus in earlier times ,but now they do not worship jesus .

they worship a god named jehovah , who they admitted in the first edition of " aid to bible understanding " was not the correct pronunciation of the tetragrammaton `s four letter hebrew letters that represented god` name , by the way , a catholic monk of the 13th century came up with jehovah by just adding a couple of vowels.. to those four hebrew letters .which has since been revised to correctly translate the tetragrammaton as yhwh and many scholars put this name more accurately as yahweh or something more similar.. fact 1 .

the tetragrammaton does not appear in the " kingdom interlinear of christian greek scriptures " printed by the wtb&ts , a word for word translation of the greek scriptures.

Crazyguy

I don't believe the early Christians we're ever worshipping the father god the Creator. They we're worshipping this new god that was exalted to the highest place for his act of sacrifice. He becomes the alpha and omega, lord or lords king of kings. This is a throw back to Marduk or Hadad, they did the same conguered death and evil and became in doing so the top God of their Pantheon.

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Jehovah's Witnesses May Have Peaked in Membership at 8 Million (+/-)

by OnTheWayOut in

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i don't have all the details of their new "service year" numbers, but i have read enough on jwn to state my opinion pretty strongly.. memorial attendance for 2015 was down.while they kept saying they were going to build a bunch of new kingdom halls, and everybody is still in recovery from watchtower taking all the local money away, they say pretty much that there isn't enough money to build new kingdom halls.putting gb members on the videos at jw .

org has allowed people to really put a face and personality to these guys and remove the mystery of how they should be such deeply spiritual serious men.

instead they see silly thoughts about tight pants and, really everything that comes out of lett's mouth is delivered ultra-goofy, along with the money reports.. the gb lost credibility a little more with every new light that shone down, with the strangest one being "overlapping generation.

Crazyguy

To me, the tell tale sign was a couple of years ago when they stopped financially supporting the missionary's. Now this news out of India that they have pulled the plug their too. Probably in a lot of other places as well and we have not heard about it yet. Its like Starbucks putting new stores all over the world in places like Chad, Bolivia, and Bangladesh. Then realizing later that no one there likes coffee or can even afford to buy it. So now Starbucks has to take a loss sell off all these stores and run back to the markets where they can still make money. The Borg is attempting to do the same. But here's the reality, where most of the reported growth has come from in the past decade has come from these places their pulling away from. So unless they lie about the numbers, which I'm sure they will do or are already doing the numbers will go down.

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Who or What is the Holy Spirit?

by FusionTheism in

tradition within christianity has long been that any time the phrases holy spirit, holy ghost, or spirit of godare used in the bible (especially in the new testament), it always refers to the mysterious third divine person of the trinity, who is fully god, co-equal to the father and son, yet somehow distinct.. i want to present a simplified alternative view: let the context determine the meaning!.

(one thing to keep in mind is that the meaning of the bible words used for spirit basically is unseen force or invisible presence.).

the holy spirit as the mind and personality of god.

Crazyguy

Actually I disagree Lieu, I used to think the same and yes many of older writings in the Bible are a rip off from Sumeria. But if you read the book of the dead and other writings from Egypt you'll see that the ideas of Christianity came from Egypt and this concept of dieing your soul going to heaven after your heart is judged is Egyptian, also living in a paradise called the field of reads is also originally Egyptian. The Sumerians believed in an after life but did not seem to go into the same detail as the Egyptian. I also now believe that the Egyptian culture is older then the Sumerian, this is exactly the opposite of what people have said in the past. I think theirs some rascim in that thought. More modern archeology is also showing that Egypt came before Sumeria and thiers evidence that thier was even older cultures farther south in Africa. This also makes sense if you believe man first came about in Africa like the experts say.

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JW message becoming more and more relevant

by lsw1961 in

mans requirements are limited which can be satisfied with a little and tension-free endeavor..

however man attempts not only to collect but also to grab and amass everything to the excess.

somehow he feels that he can be happy only when he has in abundance whereas others have nothingwhich seems to be the thread that runs throughout the history.