Stuckinarut2 is so right, I just asked a couple of questions and was having a one one discussion with an elder about one subject and my reputation was all the while being ruined throughout my circuit!
Crazyguy
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Does the two witness rule still stand on minor sins?
by Homer notsimpson inits been pointed out to me that two eye witnesses are always needed for elders to form a judicial case.
the sister could have sex with a brother.
she confesses and he denies, he gets off free, sure.
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When was Genesis written, I think I have norrowed it down, maybe.
by Crazyguy ini was doing some research on the sumerians kings lists.
for those that don't know this list has a list of antediluvian kings that ruled before the flood.
this list translates to the same as the patriarchs before the flood in genesis, from adam down to noah.
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Crazyguy
The earliest found genesis fragments like you stated were 2 century and there's no evidence beyond the Bible that Saul ever existed and again no evidence of a kings list with ten names except that of Berossus. I think I could be on to something here.
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When was Genesis written, I think I have norrowed it down, maybe.
by Crazyguy ini was doing some research on the sumerians kings lists.
for those that don't know this list has a list of antediluvian kings that ruled before the flood.
this list translates to the same as the patriarchs before the flood in genesis, from adam down to noah.
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I was doing some research on the Sumerians kings lists. For those that don't know this list has a list of antediluvian kings that ruled before the flood. This list translates to the same as the patriarchs before the flood in Genesis, from Adam down to Noah. Except I discovered one glaring difference! When archaeologists found the stone tablets with the lists on them they seem to all have just 8 names except a list compiled by an ancient historian and astronomer named Berossus. Berossus lived in the late 3rd century and wrote his writings around 290-278 BC. Berossus Kings list had a total of ten names for this period the same amount as the book of Genesis. Could it be that the book of Genesis wasn't written until sometime after 278 BC?
Another clue is the story of Noah's Ark built before the flood. In other stories found in Sumeria, older stories the boat is just a make shift vessel and the measurements are nothing definite more hap hazard. In one story the builder is told to just make it as long as it is wide roof it over and use pitch. In Berossus version the measurements are again not defined as to how the Ark is to be built but are pretty much the exact measurements as that of the Ark in the bible if one is to break them down in to more then one level. much the way the Ark ended up being in the Genesis story.
Could it be that the book of Genesis wasn't written until after Berossus writings, maybe sometime in the 2nd century BC?
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Does the two witness rule still stand on minor sins?
by Homer notsimpson inits been pointed out to me that two eye witnesses are always needed for elders to form a judicial case.
the sister could have sex with a brother.
she confesses and he denies, he gets off free, sure.
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Crazyguy
If it's a case of adultery you need two witnesses , if it's pedophile then again it two witnesses unless it's an elder then you need 5. If it's apostacy you only need to think it and your just DFD!!
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New letter forces elders to finally show love to sinners
by poopie inthat desire not to be shunned whether or not they want to be jw again is not the point for some they just do not want to be shunned any more there are sick of being shunned it's disgusting.
no human should be treated like they do not exist it's eviil..
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Crazyguy
Don't think the elders are going to take this way also it's just to the elders the rank and file will still shun.
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New letter forces elders to finally show love to sinners
by poopie inthat desire not to be shunned whether or not they want to be jw again is not the point for some they just do not want to be shunned any more there are sick of being shunned it's disgusting.
no human should be treated like they do not exist it's eviil..
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Crazyguy
Poopie , I think you misunderstood the letter. It was telling the elders that they didn't have to go to DFD and DA ex members per year to talk to them instead they could just wait until they came to the JWs. Just more shielding techniques to keep ones from being exposed to TTATT!
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The start of a rough patch ahead...
by confused3426 inlast night i told my mom my true feelings on the organization and what i've learned so far.
it all started from a conversation, we need to go visit the new headquarters.
my mom has been studying and just recently became an unbaptized publisher in the spanish cong.
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Crazyguy
It's your life and you have to live it! Do your research study the Bible and see if it's really the word of god.study science and everything else. In the end the choices you make are going to be with you the rest of your life. Most JW piss away the dreams desires and hopes to be a good JW. Then die broke and destitute forgotten by the congregation when thier to old or sick to go to the meetings.
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Was looking at my childhood book "From Paradise Lost to Paradise Regained" I found something interesting.
by Still Totally ADD ini was showing a friend of mine what kind of books my parents allowed me to read when i was very young.
no children books that was age related but the so called orange paradise book was my only children book i had.
she was taken back on how violent it was and showing little kids being killed by god was just unspeakable.
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When was that book published?
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Does anyone here want to be saved or have the urge to worship?
by Half banana ini don’t know about any of you but does anyone else share my lack of impulse to worship anything?.
i became a jw when still at school and had been puzzled at the time by the posters outside of evangelical churches telling me to repent and come to jesus and be saved.. for me it was an irrelevance, i never felt like being saved...what from?
i was happy as an exploring type of child, i never knew of anything wanting to be worshipped and i didn’t need to worship anything either..
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Crazyguy
I always thought having integrity was the mark of a true christian standing up for what is right even under persecution. After waking up and dealing with the elders I soon realized most religions are all about following a leader.
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Any atheists here? Have you come to terms with your new reality?
by kpop inalone, without my safety net of "god" being there to remember me when i die.
after much consideration, examining science, history and using logic, i have come to the conclusion that there is no "god" at least certainly no loving, personal "god.
" shortly before my final conclusion was reached, i read an excerpt from an expression attributed to marcus aurelius, .
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Crazyguy
It takes awhile and in my case I had to study and research and become convinced that the Bible is just a book and so are the other holy books around the world. I'm with Marcus!