Shunning is not really anywhere in the scriptures except for those that don’t believe Jesus is the Christ 1john.
Crazyguy
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Coping with a change of heart
by Strugglingrsa inafter 24 years of active service as a witness my marriage came to an end causing massive trauma.during this tragic life event for a period of approx 8 months i went haywire.
drinking.
partying.smoking.i was disfellowshipped.i met a wonderful non witness along the way and am remarried.what i don't get is this.if an announcement was made that i am no longer a jehovahs witness then why does the bible principle in corinthians about not even greeting he who calls himself a brother still apply.
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Connections between Christadelphians and Russell´s Biblestudents
by oppostate inthe bible students and the christadelphians have a lot in common.. i searched on facebook... .
and look what i found:https://www.facebook.com/christadelphianbiblestudents/.
there´s even a group named like that..
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Crazyguy
It was my understanding that they were part of the Bible students of Russell then broke off after Rutherford took over , I guess I was wrong.
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Connections between Christadelphians and Russell´s Biblestudents
by oppostate inthe bible students and the christadelphians have a lot in common.. i searched on facebook... .
and look what i found:https://www.facebook.com/christadelphianbiblestudents/.
there´s even a group named like that..
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Crazyguy
They were one and the same back in the day.
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2018-Annual Service Report!
by Atlantis inif this has already been posted just disregard.. 2018 annual service report one in english and one in spanish.
other news included.
zipped folder.
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Crazyguy
I think that guy in Germany has the right idea. They have been telling everyone that something like so many people are joining each day so to keep up this charade they continue to publish this number or a bit greater per year.
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Watchtower Now Considers Elders to Be Clergy Class
by Roger Kirkpatrick inmy father's uncle and spiritual mentor, benjamin ray kent, had been a deacon (ministerial servant) in watchtower founder c. t. russell's home ecclesia (congregation) in brooklyn, and also served as russell's personal secretary at brooklyn bethel.
after attending university my father served a 5-year prison term during world war ii, supposedly for his loyalty to god.
while his mother's proud and patriotic family disowned my father for his decision, it was his uncle ray who regularly visited him in prison.. that is the culture in which i was raised, and for much of my life, i took great pride in the belief that my father was a man of integrity to god.
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Crazyguy
They’ll claim clergy class in one case then turn around and say their not when they loose and have to appeal.
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The Apprentice - Watchtower version
by catchthis inbeing a fan of the tv show the apprentice, i love to "play along" to see if my ideas would work with what the teams are tasked to accomplish.
many times, their ideas are totally off.
other times, the executives they are tasked with providing a presentation to feel that they had 'hit a home run.
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Crazyguy
This guy was pretty right on, bumping since it was mentioned in another thread.
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Mo Money ... $$$
by loneranger inthe money grab continues!!
at a very recent circuit assembly (usa), the accounts overseer gave the typical accounts report for the ca in the early afternoon.
there were 2100 people at the assembly.
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Crazyguy
So they’ve decided to push for about $15 per head. That’s definitely up from the 5-10 just a couple years ago. I also think they figure out what demographic their in when they come up with these numbers. Example LA California higher then Tulsa Oklahoma.
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JW elders stumped by Watchtower Publications
by Roger Kirkpatrick ini was approached by two jehovah’s witness elders who handed me a pamphlet advertising the jw .org website.
each man carried a bible and an apple ipad.
they told me that they enjoyed visiting with people about the bible, and asked if i was a bible reader.
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Crazyguy
I doubt this really happened but is an illustration to show how another one of their teachings can be proven wrong. In all reality once someone starts getting to technical or asks elders to start turning to the scriptures or their own publications the elders would of been shutting down the conversation, they can not use their brains that much it forbidden.
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The Reasons for Cart Witnessing
by Simon inwhatever we think of it, you have to admit that it's quite "genius".. the door to door ministry as done in western developed countries where the jw quirky religion has probably reached their saturation level was a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the effort expended to recruit people.. at the same time, it was rarely something that anyone enjoyed which led to people being labelled as inactive, being pressured to doing more and maybe ultimately deciding jwism wasn't for them and leaving.. there was also the issue that many jws are actually pretty bad at knowing and articulating their beliefs so were pretty incapable of getting any meaningful message across.. they solved all this with the cart witnessing.
the real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for jws.
now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for jw.org.
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Crazyguy
Wasn’t it Pliny that wrote to the Emporer asking what to do with theses Christians because he didn’t know who they were even though he held posts all over the empire of high cop and prosecutor , etc. Then when he wrote the letter he was I believe governor of what we call Turkey today? Maybe I thinking of someone else but this was I believe several centuries after Jesus time and the Christian movement was still so small he didn’t know anything about them.
It seems to me that this religion was irrelevant until after Constantine started to support it and then was made the state religion by another empower.
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The Reasons for Cart Witnessing
by Simon inwhatever we think of it, you have to admit that it's quite "genius".. the door to door ministry as done in western developed countries where the jw quirky religion has probably reached their saturation level was a complete and utter waste of time in terms of the effort expended to recruit people.. at the same time, it was rarely something that anyone enjoyed which led to people being labelled as inactive, being pressured to doing more and maybe ultimately deciding jwism wasn't for them and leaving.. there was also the issue that many jws are actually pretty bad at knowing and articulating their beliefs so were pretty incapable of getting any meaningful message across.. they solved all this with the cart witnessing.
the real point isn't to recruit, it's to make life easier for jws.
now they can stand and chat with their friend, have a coffee, not talk to anyone or make eye contact and still act as a walking billboard for jw.org.
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Crazyguy
I don’t know, yeah easier ways for the elderly to het hours maybe but the cult is really interested in getting new suckers. So I think as they were toying with new ideas they decided to go back to the old days and bring back the plaguereds.
Same with showing videos at the door and at the carts, it’s a throw back to the record player days.
yeah the whole thing is a big joke. I remember listening to an interview of an exjw who was a pioneer at the time these carts first got going. He said they had a big gathering to celebrate the first years success. It came out in that meeting that in the entire US this being only a city campaign at the time that a whole whopping 8 people came into the truth via the cart witnessing.
Being such a huge success the program went nationwide and is done now even in small communities.