Posts by Crazyguy

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Type and Anti-Type, the killing of the Faithful and Discreet Slave. Whats thier angle and how do they spin out of this one?

by Crazyguy in

it would seam that the changing of the type anti-type teaching kills their claim as the faithful and discreet slave class as it is only a parable according to peter at luke 12:41. obviously i don't think they will ever come out and actually say that the f&ds is just a parable, so when one asks what will the answer be, to spin out of this obvious problem?.

also what do you think is the reason for the change in this teaching?

is it more to do with getting rid of doctrine that can be criticized or could it be that they are trying to make it as though they are really not in control of the congregations so as to say we aren't responsible when the prosecution comes knocking over future pedophile case?

Crazyguy

It would seam that the changing of the type anti-type teaching kills their claim as the Faithful and discreet slave class as it is only a parable according to Peter at Luke 12:41. Obviously I don't think they will ever come out and actually say that the F&DS is just a parable, so when one asks what will the answer be, to spin out of this obvious problem?

Also what do you think is the reason for the change in this teaching? Is it more to do with getting rid of doctrine that can be criticized or could it be that they are trying to make it as though they are really not in control of the congregations so as to say we aren't responsible when the prosecution comes knocking over future pedophile case? Or some thing completely different? Last question, do you think they really thought it through when they decided to drop this type anti type teaching because it does really poke a major hole in their claim of being something they are not?

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Just watched Truth be Told

by Introvert 2 in

just watched truth be told, bought their fb promo deluxe version today !

am enjoying it and will share it with a friend soon.. one thing i've noticed is that of all the ones interviewed were born in and were active before the internet age.. i would think their situation would of been different today.

my experience having come in on my own as an adult 15 years ago was somewhat different, but made worst thanks to my own ocd and perfectionism.

Crazyguy

Thanks, I need to watch it.

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need clarification: i told my wife the type and anti-type abolishment made the FDS a parable and not factual. boy did this piss her off

by goingthruthemotions in

let's just say i sometimes don't know how to keep my trap shut.

i really need to learn to keep well enough alone when she attacks me.

keep in mind i never start the fights about the borg.

Crazyguy

Just show luke 12:41, Peter said it was just a parable.

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"Foot in the Door", or "Apathy with a Cart"?

by stuckinarut2 in

we have all noticed this and commented in other threads.... but isn't it interesting that in times past, witnesses earned a reputation of being so determined to share "the kingdom message" that they would put their foot in the door at a house to keep the conversation going!.

now, the apathy and lack of effort in service; particularly with the literature carts shows the complete opposite!

yet...the end is supposed to be even closer right?

Crazyguy

Yep they should be like Jonah. They should sell everything they have and just spend all thier time yelling to everyone they meet' that the end is near and you must join us or die. ' idiots

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Carefully Examine the Scriptures like the Beroean

by FusionTheism in

these quotes might come in handy for some of you in certain situations:.

bearing witness (acts) book, pages 137-138:.

16 though the beroeans were hearing something new, they were not suspicious or harshly critical; neither were they gullible.

Crazyguy

Yep I brought this out to the elders that were dealing with me and I even showed them a paragraph from the truth book that said something to the effect that if your religion is teaching just one thing that is not true then it's all false. Can't remember exactly, anyway they just mentally dismiss it all. Thier Zombies.

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What are Some of your best JW Questions they can't answer?

by 1tMakesNoSence in

i made a thread on reddit regarding questions jw's can't answer.

was wondering what you guys can add to it..

Crazyguy

If all scriptures are inspired of God then why did someone take out something like 15 books of the Bible? Why didn't the JW's put those back in thier Bibles?

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What are Some of your best JW Questions they can't answer?

by 1tMakesNoSence in

i made a thread on reddit regarding questions jw's can't answer.

was wondering what you guys can add to it..

Crazyguy

Can we agree that god hates human sacrifice? Can we also agree based on what we are taught by the GB that god hates suicide? You would agree that both of these are acts of murder based on what you are taught no? So when one dies for refusing a life saving blood transfusion can it not be said that this person committed suicide as a human sacrifice to Jehovah, how is this act not despicable to your god?

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plagiarism in the bible- what I have learnt part one

by purrpurr in

i have recently been studying the myths and legends of other pre- jewish cultures.

such as babylonian, egyptian and greek.

these stories and beliefs are all pre dating the writing of the jewish torah and the new testament.

Crazyguy

I would read the book I mentioned above first, its great for setting of the table and will help show that the Jews just copied these stories then changed them to suit their own agenda. Then I would read The Bible Unearthed, by Israel Finkelstein. This book is an archaeology's understanding of what the real Israel and that area was all about and who the people of that area were really. Another one to get is the Egyptian book of the dead by Dr. Ogden Goelet and Dr. Raymondo Faulkner. This book has some of the best illustrations of the scroll and if you study it well you'll see that most of what we are taught in the NT about ones spirit going to heaven, our hearts conditions being judged and they idea of living in a paradise all come from this much older religion.

In response to Brotherblues, its important to bring out to any JW that your talking to that these stories could be said to just be repeated orally down through Noah until finally written down by the Moses etc. Yet there is one major problem all the stories involved multiple gods and not just one and his adversary Satan. In fact this adversary we know as Satan is in fact the very God that saves Noah, is the creator with help of mankind and is the father of Adam. He is also the one who confuses the language, so you may want to ask the JW "Who's god are you really worshipping?"

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plagiarism in the bible- what I have learnt part one

by purrpurr in

i have recently been studying the myths and legends of other pre- jewish cultures.

such as babylonian, egyptian and greek.

these stories and beliefs are all pre dating the writing of the jewish torah and the new testament.

Crazyguy

I am currently reading the book, The Chaldean account of Genesis by George Smith. really good book and it goes over all the myths in the bible that were found to be written thousands of years before the Jews even existed. The creation myth of Ziusudra is the most fascinating to me because it covers and talk about the Watchers which were the gods that came down and mated with woman to create "great men of renown" (the nephilim) of the bible as well as some other good stuff I have not found written in any other book. Its also amazing to discover the Evolution of the god the Sumerians first called Hea and as time went on he became known as Ea, Enki, El, Cronos, Satan, and is part of the personality of the god we all know as Jehovah.

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Is Prophecy important?

by EA916 in

hello, i am certainly new to all of this.

i have recently been studying the prophecy's, and i was wondering if they are of any importance at all?

Crazyguy

To answer your question, is prophecy important I would say yes. The fact that I can think of six off the top of my head that did not come true shows me that the bible is not a holy book written by god. The six I speak of are the destruction of Trye by the Babylonians they were unsuccessful and it was later rebuilt after Alexander a Greek destroyed it. 2. Damascus to be destroyed and be a pile or just a heap again didn't happen after the verse was written in Isaiah. 3 the Babylonians were to conquer Egypt again didn't happen. 4 Egyptian's were to find themselves speaking Hebrew or some other Semitic language again didn't happen. 5 Jesus told his followers that some of them would not die before he returned, again didn't happen.

6 the Davidic line would always rule, again if there was even a Davidic line it stopped after the Babylonians destroyed Jerusalem in 587 B.C.E.. Yes some will argue that a kingly line did still exist and one even was present after they returned from Babylon (if you believe the Bible) but the Persians did not allow a king on the throne at Jerusalem and no Davidic king was again on the throne until Jesus supposedly showed up over 400 years later.

I'm sure there is more prophecies that I don't mention like the one in the last chapter of the bible where 5 times its says Jesus would be back very soon, but hey whose counting.