I'm not sure if baptism really means that much. When people start to leave the Borg they do so whether or not baptized. Maybe the act holds a few more captive percentage wise but probably not by much. The numbers of ones waking up and speaking out is going up. Even older ones are thinking and showing that enough is enough.
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Stats of conventions in Mexico
by ILoveTTATT2 ini just went to a convention in mazatlan, mexico.. i had wanted to do this for a very long time, it left me shaken a bit (because i had a confrontation of sorts with one jw who recognized me), but i got some stats that give some insight into the borg.
it really is crumbling, even in the places where they have arguably had the best, wildest success in the world: mexico.. just so you can see how much they have success in mexico compared to the us or anywhere else:.
top three countries in 2014 were:.
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Solomon's Temple construction, things you realize when no longer asleep.
by Crazyguy inok so in 1kings chapters 5-6 is where we have the story of the construction of solomon's most holy temple to god, the supreme god.
it says that to build this magnificent temple they used 30,000 men, 10,000 per month.
another 70,000 common laborers in the hills digging up stone and 80,000 stone cutting laborers.
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Crazyguy
Ok so in 1Kings chapters 5-6 is where we have the story of the construction of Solomon's most holy temple to God, the Supreme God. It says that to build this magnificent temple they used 30,000 men, 10,000 per month. Another 70,000 common laborers in the hills digging up stone and 80,000 stone cutting laborers. 3,300 men just to over see the work as supervisors and the project took seven years, I repeat SEVEN YEARS to complete. Yes what a magnificent awesome accomplishment for the most holy.
If I only had a time machine I could go back look at this project when it was done and think to myself. "What all this for a place no bigger then my house, LOL". Yes this temple was only about 100 feet long and about 34 feet wide and about two stories high, no bigger then my house. What a joke. I guess the translators or the story tellers got yet another thing wrong in the inspired word of the bible.
Oh and one last thing when they were done they sacrificed 22,000 cattle and 120,000 sheep really, really? Its amazing how when a sleep (indoctrinated) what people can not discern when reading this crap.
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JW Parents Safeguard your children
by happy@last inhttp://www.walesonline.co.uk/news/wales-news/jehovahs-witnesses-destroyed-documents-showing-7340603.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/wires/ap/article-2816630/13-5m-award-jehovahs-witnesses-molest-case.html#ixzz3hn875cel.
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/jehovahs-witnesses-sex-abuse-scandal-4422943#ixzz3fwm1uttl.
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bumping, most of the above links to news article's still are active
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Do you find it hard to be around active JW's now?
by EdenOne ini do - actually, it's become close to unbearable.. and herein lies the paradox: i tried to fade in the illusion that i might keep contact with family and friends still "in".
was it worth it?
because not only most of them shun me anyways, but i find it almost unbearable to be around them, especially when the cult chit chat kicks in: every cute animal video clip triggers endless comments about glimpses of the future paradise and how "god did it"; those greasy praises to the organization and the governing body; the dumb awe about every jw broadcast and those cheesy music videos; the endless drivel against other religions when one knows perfectly well that we're no better than them; the endless flow of "experiences" of field service or spectacular conversions into "the truth"; the relentless congregation gossip; and so on .... i ask myself: is this why i am fading for ...?
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They've Exposed Their Hand
by OneFingerSalute inso the wtb&t$ have either intentionally or unwittingly exposed their hand in this mornings wt indoctrination article.. this is a direct quote from par.
"regardless of how long we have been in the truth, we must tell others about jehovah's organization.
" the question is, "what obligation does psalm 48: 12-14 place on us?".
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You should answer something to the effect, "that today we are encouraged to tell all about the WT organization knowing full well that the scriptures at Galation's say we will be cursed for this, but we must still endure." -
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True believers never save their money
by stillin init's an article of faith.
either god is going to save them or he is not.
since one local elder proudly told me that he never saved a nickel until just before his retirement, i've given this subject some thought.. savers are worldly..
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My father left a good job became a lawn clipper. Died destitute, homeless living with his mother in law and he hated her. Also his death was caused by bad Healthcare which he would not of had, had he stayed working for the major corporation. He would also had a pention a 401k and life insurance. But no none of those being a lawn clipper. -
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August Study WT "Prepare Now to be a Good Little Drone in the New Order"
by JW_Rogue ini thought paradise was supposed to be a delight?
not according to the august study wt, on page 20 paragraphs 4-12 it outlines how much paradise will be exactly like being in the org today.
still following rules, waiting on jehovah and obeying those taking the lead.
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Vidiot, you're so right imagine living in North Korea forever. Not to mention the only music would be Borg songs, please just shoot me now! -
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The elderly sisters are at it again.
by John Aquila inawhile back, about a year and a half ago, when i was starting to wake up, i explained to my mom that when the circuit overseer is in town, they schedule shepherding calls after lunch, not because they care, but because they dont want to work door to door in the hot summer or cold winter.
and they know that a prepared call means some nice hot chocolate and cookies or some ice cold tea and snacks.
i remember her looking at me kind of funny so i ended the conversation and left it at that, and never brought it up again.
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A year ago or so I was in invited to one of these meals. Thinking back yes the meal was at a sister house that was either inactive or didn't go to the meetings much maybe just listened over the phone. There were others there pioneers etc. He the Co didn't really do any speaking of spiritual things while I was there mostly taking baseball, maybe after we all left he had a sit down talk with the sister who knows, but it all makes perfect sense now. -
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Historical Meanings of Sheol & Hades
by Perry infor those of you interested in getting to the bottom of the watchtower's teaching on sheol, hades, condition of the dead etc.
; this information is about as good as it gets.
the idea of consciousness after death was widely accepted from israel's earliest times, contrary to what the watchtower would have its members believe.. the lexicographical evidence is so clear that the great princeton scholar, b. b. warfield; stated that with modern hebrew scholars, there is no hesitation to allow with all heartiness that israel from the beginning of its recorded history cherished the most settled conviction of the persistence of the soul in life after death.
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I wish there was more information on this. All the surrounding cultures believed in an underworld so its obvious that the Jews did to but the bible and many of their other writings are to vague for proof it would seem. -
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need input: My wife is at it again...this time about the faithful and discreet slave
by goingthruthemotions inso you all know that i go with my wife to the meeting to protect the kids from the drival and pacify her.
tonight we are sitting there and she points to mathew and says something about the faithful and discreet slave and she said eplain this.
so breaking away from what i was reading in the meeting..." in search of christian freedom by franz"...i said.
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slam her with 1 corith. chapters 1, 3 and 11 I believe, these chapter say that your leaders don't matter at all and that we should not be slaves of men. Ask her how they, her leaders are not going beyond what is written. Then pull out your Greek interlinear and show her in revelation chapter 5:10 in the Greek side where it states that they will reign not as kings but only as priests and not over the earth but on it, then go back to the scripture in Corinthians about going beyond what is written.