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  Disfellowshipped/disassociated – How did your parents handle it?

  by Richard_I in

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  2. experiences

  to those who were disfellowshipped/disassociated – how did your still-in parents handle it?.

  i don’t want to fade, so i am thinking about disassociating soon – i don’t care if i’m playing by the org’s rules, i just want out.. however, i am concerned about how my parents will react.

  i don’t want them to become super depressed or whatever due to me leaving the org.. i don’t want them to be hurt by my decision to leave the org, but i feel like there is no way of avoiding this..

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  Don’t DA especially if your still living with them, that would be like cutting your own throat. Wait till you out of thier home and then fade away. Many parents still have relations with their kids even when their no longer active.
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  Scholarly interview on the existence of Jesus

  by careful in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  perhaps this has been linked here before.

  if that's the case, i'm sorry.

  however, new people join, others miss things, some forget, so i thought it was worth posting, especially since this issue comes up from time to time and some here have never worked it out or are in the process of trying to do so.

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  What’s interesting is one can find writings by people like Plato and others that describe in great detail a guy like Jesus and what he would say and teach before he even existed. It’s almost like someone took these ideas and writtings by others to then invent a guy a messiah named Jesus and then took many of the ideas of the then prevailing messianic religions or cults of the day combined them in to a new deity and again called him Jesus which this name means savior and was already being used in the Greek Septuagint.

  Oh wait, that’s exactly what happened.
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  Sunday's Watchtower Study March 18... Another Money Appeal

  by BluesBrother in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  january 2018 issue "why give to the one who has everything?

  an unashamed contribution appeal... this one with the most manipulative language i can imagine... it may have been commented on before, but i am going to anyway.. p5 quote.

  "would you not agree that jehovah is worthy of all the glory and honor that we can give him by offering the best that we have?

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  These guys are just plain sick! They probably need less money now then ever before except for lawsuits. I mean they print very little have less people working for them in house and are selling off all their properties and even Kingdom Halls.

  Only reasons for money is to pay for the lawsuits and more investments.
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  My last Memorial

  by Sour Grapes in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i missed my first memorial last year in 60 years.

  it always amazed me on this special night that the jw's forget how to park their cars in the parking lot.

  i would pull in with my wife and there are 5 brothers giving directions on where and how to park my car.

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  John chapter 6:53 says if you don’t eat or drink the emblems you won’t have eternal life. That’s pretty plain and simple. If I was a bible believer I would say that at Armageddon all JWs will be destroyed for rejecting jesus and his instructions !
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  The Samaritans

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. social
  2. current

  just been reading a bit about the samaritans.

  no, not the professionals that answer phone calls of depressed people ... the ethno-religious people of israel and the west bank (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/samaritans).. they claim to be descended from the israelite tribes of ephraim and manasseh.

  this would make them israelites but not jews (strictly speaking, jews are people who are from the kingdom of judah).. for many years some jewish people dismissed the claims of samaritans, instead suggesting that samaritans were descended from unrelated people whom the babylonian empire transplanted to palestine/the levant.. from what the wiki article says, it seems scientific studies support the samaritans' claims of heritage, at least along the male lineages.. those samaritans living in israel speak modern hebrew and those living in the west bank speak palestinian arabic; they number about 800 in total.. israel recently recognised them as a distinct ethnic group.. i find it fascinating that a group of people today are seemingly the descendants of a people spoken about in the gospels (i.e.

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  Most of the Jews living in Israel today are not real Jews , who is to say this group is real. The whole tribes of Israel is a myth probably written by a Greek and out side the writtings about the house of Omri there little evidence of a Israel.
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  Sincere question to those who no longer believe in God

  by nowwhat? in

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  2. beliefs

  i get it, not a fan of yahweh the desert god.

  but what about jesus?

  anything wrong with his teachings like the sermon on the mount and the example he set.

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  Some of what jesus said in the sermon was already said. There’s a saying that there’s nothing new under the sun. Many of the things attributed to jesus had already been attributed to guys like Buddha and Krishna. Some of his sayings were already in prayer chants.

  Osisris had already been a savior god that had died for three days and when during his annual celebration the people ate bread and drank beer as a representation of his body. When the Greeks took over and combined his likeness with that of several Greek gods like Dyonisis it switched to bread and wine.

  Man has attributed many great saying and deeds to their god which ever god they worshipped at the time. Again “nothing new under the sun” , but let’s not forget Jesus wasn’t all that great for he told his followers in the stories of the Bible that non believers should be killed.
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  The Dead Sea Scrolls - did the Qmran sect influence Jesus and the early Christians?

  by fulltimestudent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  the small sect that lived in the qmran area (and who 'owned' the documents known as the dead sea scrolls), is important if we want to understand the religious thinking in the form of judaism practised in the first century ce, and therefore the starting point for the development of early christianity.. what did jesus know about the essenes who were at least in some sort of association with that sect?.

  if early judaism was truly monotheistic, how can we relate some of these thoughts to that concept?.

  from document iiq17 viii: "they bless and praise the god of gods ..." (note the translators(geza vermes) use of a capital g, why did he decide to use a capital.

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  There’s some evidence that some of the Christian ideas were essenes, there’s also evidence that the masserites influenced Jewish ideas and even helped create some of the writings in the Old Testament.

  There also seems to be evidence that the story of Christ was influenced by stories about Buddha and also Krishna.
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  Why do you think they changed Ester and Christ death from?

  by Crazyguy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i believe the early christians going back as far as constantine changed the ritual of a savior coming and the resurrection of the messiah from the spring equinox to the following full moon.

  or should i say the full moon after the spring equinox.

  so why the change?

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  I believe the Early Christians going back as far as Constantine changed the ritual of a savior coming and the resurrection of the messiah from the spring equinox to the following full moon. Or should I say the full moon after the spring equinox. So why the change? Has anyone researched it?

  It’s also interesting that so many believe in Jesus yet no one knows the exact date of his death or his resurrection, more proof of the myth in my opinion.
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  When You See A JW Approaching What Are Your Thoughts?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
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  i used to get a weird feeling in my stomach when i would see a witness approaching.... almost a sense of dread.

  now, i really don’t care.

  i have even made it a point to do the approaching when i see a witness trying to convert an ignorant person..

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  Same thing a feeling of dread but at the same time kinda a feeling of pity. These people are so arrogant yet so ignorant.
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  Languages, Dialects, Accents

  by LoveUniHateExams in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just though i'd start a thread devoted to languages, dialects/sociolects and accents, with the idea being that posters can comment on any language, or dialect or accent of any language, on this thread.. any phrases, expressions or idioms that you find interesting are also welcome.

  first, the subject of english accents came up on another thread.. the british isles have many different types of accent (although many of the dialects may be dying out), and if i start to take a closer look, i can't help but see 'patterns' .... in received pronunciation of standard english, the letter r is pronounced initially, between vowels, and after consonants, e.g.

  red, arrow, break.

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  I love how language and the evolution of languages can be used to show that humans are much older then the Bible says and also that language wasn’t confused and spread out from one place again like the Bible says.