I would have to disagree with you Dreary, your basically saying that 2/3 of all publishers in the USA including kids have at one time been pioneers, elders, MS, or gone to Bethel this would be way to high.
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New data movement this is what I see as their goals .
by Crazyguy inafter listening to the leaked videos this is what i think it’s all about.
first i don’t believe they will want to much personal information ie bank accounts etc do to potential legal problems down the road.
what i think is their goal is once all publishers are in the data base they then have no need for written information about any issue concerning a publisher and how issues are handled by elders and the branch etc... this information now is in their own data base and can be deleted or manipulated by them at any time.
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New data movement this is what I see as their goals .
by Crazyguy inafter listening to the leaked videos this is what i think it’s all about.
first i don’t believe they will want to much personal information ie bank accounts etc do to potential legal problems down the road.
what i think is their goal is once all publishers are in the data base they then have no need for written information about any issue concerning a publisher and how issues are handled by elders and the branch etc... this information now is in their own data base and can be deleted or manipulated by them at any time.
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After listening to the leaked videos this is what I think it’s all about. First I don’t believe they will want to much personal information ie bank accounts etc do to potential legal problems down the road. What i think is their goal is once all publishers are in the data base they then have no need for written information about any issue concerning a publisher and how issues are handled by elders and the branch etc... This information now is in their own data base and can be deleted or manipulated by them at any time. Records about an elder child molester that’s moved from one congregation to another and the branch knows about it , this information if it is demanded by the courts can then mysteriously disappear.
The second main reason for this data collection is to keep tract of publishers and thier movements. If a publisher moves to another congregation so as to fade, the data can be moved to the jurisdiction of the new elder body of the territory. They will be informed of the new publisher and if this publisher doesn’t come to meetings or is not attending enough, measures can be taken to sensor or disfellowship the publisher so he or she can not potentially become a problem for the other members, possibly waking someone up.
Whats interesting, is in the video the speaker mentions the published number in the US of total publishers and then goes on to mention that out of the 1.2 million publishers only about 750,000 are in their current system. He acts as though these missing ones are just not in the system yet but I suspect these ones don’t exist. That’s over 400,000 less publishers just in the USA. I’m not sure of the percentage but imagine if we take that percentage and apply it to their worldwide published numbers maybe we can get a more accurate picture of how many actual members are still left in this cult.
Ps. If my math is correct the missing publishers equals 33% of the total population of publishers in the US.
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2018-04-05-BOE- Adjustment to May's Local Needs item!
by Atlantis in2018-04-05 ( if i get the video i will post it for you.
)adjustment to may's local needs itemhttps://we.tl/rd6immtnvtatlantis!.
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With all the effort and repeated talks and videos on the subject it’s pretty clear that their trying to hide something. Yes many Kingdom Halls are closing and being sold off and it’s pretty obvious that it’s not do to growth!
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The right to record your judicial committee meeting
by UnshackleTheChains inok.. we have often heard secret recordings online of jc hearings.
but, what i would like to know is if individuals are entitled to the right of officially recording their judicial hearings?.
supposing i was to attend a judicial committee and i explained up front that i would like to record the proceedings and then place a dictaphone on the table.
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At my JC they asked about recording it and I said no I wasn’t, they even aloud me to keep my phone because the main elder knew I had a Bible app on it and used it when looking up scriptures. Worked out great , got off with just a public reproof, . Nothing was juicy enough to keep the recording so i erased it. but yea the whole thing is rigged in their favor the only chance you have is if some of the elders were friends or liked you.
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Are you better off as a worldly person or a JW?
by Jules Saturn ini was having a conversation with a relative who has been inactive for several decades (part of the ‘75 generation) and he argued that a person that is a born in is better off staying in the organization rather than someone like him who lived as a “worldly” person but then became a witness later in life.
he argues that when you’re born in, all you know nothing outside of the organization, so you’re better off in than out, that’s why when born ins leave the org, they always come back.
i agree that as a born in, your social circle is composed of witnesses but i do feel that even born ins would be happier outside of the org than being in.
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JWs do not live in a world or reality. Because of this the descisions they make are not always best for them and their families they live in a fog.
I noticed after I woke up how Raw the world felt around me. No one there to protect me or help me. We are surrounded by life and death all day long and it’s up to just us to make it, to support ourselves to protect ourselves. JWs don’t get it!
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Two virgin births in the Bible, who knew?
by Crazyguy inin the famous verse from mathew chapter 1 verse 23 i believe the writer proclaims that mary a virgin was going to give birth to a son he would be called emmanuel.
he even stated this was to fulfill a prophecy.
thats prophecy is in isaiah chapter 7:14. .
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James your missing the point , the prophecy was about another Emmanuel not Jesus at all.
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Selling off their London Properties.
by Lost in the fog inhaving sold off their brooklyn properties for $$$$ the watchtower society is doing the same thing with their properties in london, england.
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http://ibsaproperty.com .
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How many properties and is the new headquarters to be also on the market?
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Two virgin births in the Bible, who knew?
by Crazyguy inin the famous verse from mathew chapter 1 verse 23 i believe the writer proclaims that mary a virgin was going to give birth to a son he would be called emmanuel.
he even stated this was to fulfill a prophecy.
thats prophecy is in isaiah chapter 7:14. .
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It’s truly amazing how ignorant we were as Christians!
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Memorial Attendance ???
by Phizzy inhi all, anybody any anecdotal or actual idea of how attendance numbers went this year ?.
there are hints that it is well down, but is it ?
and if it is, will the borg stop crowing about the attendance as they always have ?.
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I’m willing to bet if there was a peak it was in 2014. Now that that’s gone the numbers will continue to go down. Of course that’s not what the Borg will tell us, kinda like their overall numbers. Lies more lies!
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Two virgin births in the Bible, who knew?
by Crazyguy inin the famous verse from mathew chapter 1 verse 23 i believe the writer proclaims that mary a virgin was going to give birth to a son he would be called emmanuel.
he even stated this was to fulfill a prophecy.
thats prophecy is in isaiah chapter 7:14. .
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In the famous verse from Mathew chapter 1 verse 23 I believe the writer proclaims that Mary a virgin was going to give birth to a son he would be called Emmanuel. He even stated this was to fulfill a prophecy.
Thats prophecy is in Isaiah chapter 7:14.
Funny thing is the writer of Mathew read the scrolls the same way JWs do today. For if you keep reading the verses in Isaiah the prophet was stating a child would be born during the time of king Ahaz and before this child new from right or wrong so to speak two kings that were about to destroy Ahaz would be no more.
The greatest prophecy of all time! Jesus virgin birth and it wasn’t even a prophecy about him at all! And they call me crazy.