Hopefully they the organization continue to eat themselves to death.
Crazyguy
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LEAKED: WHQ Financial Contacts meeting ref.2018-2019
by Fay Dehr inleaked: whq financial contacts meeting ref.2018-2019 [part 1 of 3] https://youtu.be/xbt05m5jeu4leaked: whq financial contacts meeting ref.2018-2019 [part 2 of 3] https://youtu.be/kyn3qknztbqleaked: whq financial contacts meeting ref.2018-2019 [part 3 of 3] https://youtu.be/euxpdckevdw.
in this 3-part leaked video meeting, financial contacts from various departments are informed of how to get on board with the financial changes needed for 2018-2019, and protocols for managing financial responsibilities are outlined.. these clips are unedited, so feel free to add comments..
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How to deal with struggling with the doctrines
by Dval inthis is my first post.
i'm still a jw but am inactive.
im struggling with the fact that i agree with some of the doctrines (i,e, the stance on the trinity, there is no hell) but i disagree with a lot of things (i,e, men can't have beards, women have to wear skirts).
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Crazyguy
Do your own research that’s what I did. In Luke jesus talks about hell. And there are plenty of scriptures that state there is a trinity. No I’m not saying this is accurate and the JWs got it wrong but when you do some research one can see how Christians believe these two doctrines. What I have found is an evolution in the Bible. What Christians believed in let’s say 150 or 200 AD was different then what they were taught let’s say after 325 AD. The Bible reflects this in its writings that were not necessarily in stone during these times and many changes were made over the centuries.
Anyway welcome to this forum and I would suggest you go back to threads started about ten years ago. JWs posting back then were really more into and knowledgeable about the Bible.
As for your next comments about JW rules your so correct these are man made rules not found in the Bible. Ask yourself would Jesus tell people to do and act the way JWs are told to by their leaders? Again welcome!
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LEAKED: WHQ Accounts: 2016-2020 Budget
by Fay Dehr inleaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 1 of 5] https://youtu.be/g08tw2v3b4s.
leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 2 of 5] https://youtu.be/rpceb5v0vbe.
leaked: whq accounts: 2016-2020 budget [part 3 of 5] https://youtu.be/2xa08ukc_6i.
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Crazyguy
No matter how you slice it , the cut backs on their publications prove their having money problems. Have they been able to stem the bleeding none of us will ever know. My thinking is the billions of dollars in real estate they made from selling off properties may have already been spent or owed to some banks. We also have evidence that they may have lost a lot of money during the depression of 08-11.
Anyway you slice it their struggling and that’s a good sign!
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For the Conspiracy Theorists
by berrygerry ingeoff jackson speaking at a france dedication:.
then he said (i'm quoting him best i can remember, but you'll get the idea): "imagine if next week i go back to us and you see in the news that the whole gb was arrested for no reason.
how'd you react?
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Crazyguy
Sounds like they know the shoe is about to drop!
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Crazyguy
They figured out thier liars so they have to use shunning. Image the chaos if people could discuss apostate ideas and bring out their mistakes with no retaliation by the leaders. Congratulations would fall apart people would be sectioned off as ones that fully believed would try to stay away from ones that were openly on the fence.
It would be great, and in time the whole house of cards would fall.
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I may have found a clue to Watchtower's sudden reversal on organ transplants
by ILoveTTATT2 ini have read countless times in this site and others that there is speculation that someone high up in the watchtower world required an organ transplant, and then because of that, their position that they had held since 1967 changed in 1980.i believe i have found a clue to who that person might have been.
i leave it to the exjw community to investigate further, but it's tantalizing!it is waay too much of a coincidence that:lee cordaway got a phone call in january 1980 that his kidneys were failing.
lee was 18 years old at the time.watchtower printed its "organ transplants are allowed now" article in march 1980.. january 1981: lee goes into the organ donor list for new kidneys.august 1981: lee receives his new kidney.september 1981: lee's new kidney is rejected, he has to have it removed.
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Crazyguy
I did hear a rumor that the restriction was lifted because someone at bethel was in need, but of course only a rumor.
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If God’s people can’t see anti-God verses in the Bible
by Ireneus inif god’s people can’t see anti-god verses in the bible, how can they be god’s people?.
jehovah is the “god of the gentiles also” and “there is no impartiality with god,” says the bible.
(romans 3:29; deuteronomy 10:17).
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Crazyguy
The Bible is a collection of writtings in some cases not even about the same god and then put into a book trying to make it as though its about the same deity. Many of these stories are not even about the same people. So it’s no wonder there are so many contradictions.
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Ex-Jehovah's Witness Recovering Group 3 and This Site
by dubstepped ini don't remember seeing it ever really talked about here but the facebook group with the namesake of this post shut down at the end of march.
it was archived and they weren't clear as to when or if they would come back.
it seemed to come out of nowhere, and i know a lot of people were disappointed.
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Crazyguy
I’m really surprised this forum isn’t more popular. Forums like Facebook and reddit make posting and answering or making comments very time sensitive. There very superficial so to speak.
Here a thread can be started and it will maybe loose traction after a while but one can still find older threads and comment on them and they get pushed back to the front so to speak so that thread can continue to be discussed. The way those forums are structured it seems like it just doesn’t happen as well.
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British Sociologist Predicts Possible Collapse in Jehovah's Witness Numbers
by slimboyfat ina newly published article by british sociologist david voas argues jehovah's witnesses may be about to experience a collapse in numbers.
contrary to claims by american sociologist rodney stark who predicts strong future growth for jehovah's witnesses, voas shows that jehovah's witnesses' efforts at recruiting new members have become increasingly unsuccessful over the past few decades: the rate of increase has steadily declined, and the number of hours each publisher must preach to produce an extra convert has gone up substantially.
voas suggests a reason for the stagnation may be that there is a natural limit to the number of people in a given population that are susceptible to conversion to sectarian groups like jehovah's witnesses - the 'carrying capacity' of the population, and that the limit has largely been reached.
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Crazyguy
These guys will lie about their numbers till the last day. They will be a very small cult someday but the collapse will not happen just a withering.
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Struggling to Live a Lie
by Addison0998 init’s been very difficult, much more than i first anticipated to live a lie, (be pimo and a regular active member) i still live with my parents but i plan on moving out at the end of the year, so i really need to keep it together.
but i think people are starting to get suspicious that something is up.
i’ve stopped commenting, going on service all the time, talking at the door, and occasionally voicing something, such as a question that no one has a good answer for, that makes people think, but ahah, thinking is dangerous and wrong so that is suspicious of course.
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Crazyguy
Don’t loose your family over this religion just become aloof at the hall, ignore the crap and go as little as possible. It’s mostly a social thing with so many not really knowing anything anyway.