as many of you know, my ex-husband was removed as an elder for child abuse.
i was told at the time he would never be reappointed in any capacity.
yet i heard today he was appointed as an account servant.
Baptized brothers and sisters can handle the accounts for a congregation and perform the quarterly audit. I have actually seen this done. However, if there are sufficient elders and ministerial servants it is preferred to use them, even when their accounting skills are a complete ATROCITY. It twists my brain in knots because sisters would keep all the accounts straight and tied out properly.
Even Jesus appointed account servant was a freaking thief and a frugal grouch about the accounts.
special pioneers let go.
bethel workers laid off.
construction halts, what's next?
Just walk away while the implosion occurs in the background. It would be the best day of my life if the organization ceased to function.
CC
in short:- tight pants is no longer just a am3 hang up (or is that a hang up on the well hung?
)- brothers who have effeminate body language are flagged up- as are sisters with 'masculine' hair styles or dress- such dress is 'disturbing to the congregation'- the above must heed the (repeated) counsel from the elders...or they get stripped of the right to share on the ministry- however...this will not be revealed (announced) to the congregation.
wow.
In my mind, what is important here is how the governing body gets further and further away from not "going beyond the things written". Just like with declaring that people who looked at pornography could be disfellowshipped while the Bible says nothing about it, this edict is nowhere in God's word. If you can say that people can be restricted from field service because of the way they dress (which is unprecedented in my opinion - previously we could only do this with mentally ill publishers) and people can be disfellowshipped for what they read or watch, how long will it be before reading and posting to a site like this is a disfellowshipping offense? And so on. Your imagination can take you places with this that I can't.
CC
here is an idea i tested.
works at both assemblies and conventions.
i have noticed at the last convention and at my last assembly that when i opened up my wifi setting, tons of hotspots came up for people tethering their tablets to their smart phones.
This is an amazing idea. Did anyone guess it was you or try to address it at all?
CC
so i've been pretty good at not going to meetings lately.
yesterday i went for the co's last talks.
older co. his last talk was absolutely shocking.
Parents need to remember that the buck stops with them where their children are concerned. While what the CO or elders say or what is in the publications from the governing body is interesting and might be helpful, they are suggestions. Why? Because parents are accountable for how their children turn out. So for those of you who are parents and are still in the organization, do not let a loud-mouthed, overbearing, self-righteous elder or CO convince you to do something that you believe would ultimately be bad for your child. Have the guts to stand up and say "In my house, this is how we do it." While you may not be a favorite or get a lot of privileges because of this attitude, remember that none of these people will help you when your children grow up mentally damaged or broken and unable to function fully as adults because of crazy activities during childhood or adolescence.
CC
i remember hearing the sounds of the train horn blowing on january 1st 2015 and remembering, "another year and no armagedon".
and i was so disappointed.
i hated to hear that train whistle blow.
You're waiting for a train, a train that will take you far away. You know where you hope this train will take you, but you don't know for sure. But it doesn't matter.
CC
what is a cult and what is a religion?
its open to debate.
who has the authority to say for certain what is a cult and what is a religion?
Oubliette - you're busted! "Let's review: It's a cult!" automatically posts with every one of your posts, right?
:)
CC
just feel like i could never make it on the outside world.
i was never able to adjust, except in being a mom and in business.
those are the only things that i feel strong in.
I think it comes down to how much pain it is causing you to be one of Jehovah's Witnesses versus what pain would be associated with fading out and leaving. How tied to the organization are you? Lots of relatives and friends that mean a lot to you that would cut you off entirely? Children involved who would get caught in the middle? Husband who would make your life hell?
Feel free to PM me if you want to talk privately.
CC
do any of you ex-jw's still believe in god?
even with the new rebranding/softening of this religion, i still don't see how people can believe in him.
the god of the old testimate is an angry murderer who approved rapes and slavery and killed thousands of men, women and children.
I am convinced there is a God, but I'm certain that he is not as religions (especially Jehovah's Witnesses) paint him.
I believe that as science makes progress, the various views about what is considered "spiritual" will be debunked to a certain extent and explained to a certain extent. This will result in many of the restrictive views of religion melting away as the true nature of what binds us together and initiated the universe becomes clear. And through that, our new understanding of how things really work, many of society's ills and imbalances can be righted. It will simply be a matter of truly understanding what is beyond us.
CC
if jws did the following, i believe they would grow exponentially and become one of the largest 'religions' on earth : .
1. no more dfing or shunning......its up to your conscience who you like or don't like.
in the same way if i was catholic living in ireland, i wouldn't hang out with my neighbor if she was a drunk fornicator, just had an abortion, had a taliban boyfriend and also supported liverpool soccer club.
I can't see it happening. However, I can't see any significant religions left on the planet within 20 to 30 years.
CC
