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  Let's Talk Baseball ! Who's your Favorite Team ? Love My S.F. Giants !

  by flipper in

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  and they are now in 1st place in the n.l.

  west with a 6-1 record !

  and the hated l.a. dodgers are in last place !

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  Phillies fan here, and I like the Athletics too (used to be the Philadelphia A's after all).

  Flipper, while it's nice to see the Giants off to a 6-1 start, isn't it a bit early to be jumping for joy? Last I checked, it's a 162-game marathon.
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  Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

  by Mad Sweeney in

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  the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

  they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

  " the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

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  Excellent post Mary; and may I add a scripture you cited as one often ignored by the WTS:

  "John 14:2-4"In the house of my Father there are many abodes. Otherwise, I would have told YOU, because I am going my way to prepare a place for YOU. 3 Also, if I go my way and prepare a place for YOU, I am coming again and will receive YOU home to myself, that where I am YOU also may be. 4 And where I am going YOU know the way."

  I've seen it mentioned in their literature (including the Greatest Man book) but they seldom address what appears to be the obvious import of Jesus' words, and they (to my knowledge) shy away from explaining what the "many abodes" are.
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  Yeabook 2010 cover up -Rutherford's false prophecy that Armagedon was coming in 1925....half the Publishers leave the truth!

  by Witness 007 in

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  this years yearbook covers "albainia" as i read these experiences i get to around 1920-25 and i notice that 3 or 4 healthy congregations turn into just 13-14 publishers by 1926 after "a time of trouble.

  " although not mentioned this "trouble" was rutherford's "millions now living will never die" campaign with the watchtower saying armagedon was coming in 1925. most european congregations by 1926 lost whole congregations with only 3-10 "faithful " remaining {e.g poland, romania yearbook experiences} notice how the graph starts from the 1940's to avoid and cover up showing the flat lined publisher figures after 1925.....{notice also dips after 1975}.

  however, check out the 2006 yearbook page 80. romania graph, and you see a flat lined publisher figure at 1926. the witnesses had to start from scratch.

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  "John Barr, from the Governing Body, and Robert Pevy, who had pioneered in Ireland and who is now serving at Brooklyn Bethel, offered assistance. They took time from vacation trips in Britain to come to Ireland to talk with the brothers and encourage them."

  Not to divert the topic, but how nice of those GB members to take time from their precious vacations. And wouldn't it be nice to be able to take an overseas vacation on the congregation's dime?
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  How much is gas in your area?

  by Outaservice in

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  also, do you think gas prices affects the jw field service any?.

  here it is approximately $2.69 per gallon.

  i heard in michigan it is $2.99 right now.. outaservice.

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  $2.80-2.285 for regular.

  As Memorial Day approaches, it almost always goes up in price.
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  They sold their souls for rock and roll.

  by A.Fenderson in

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  have you ever noticed any bands/musical artists that overall you really just don't like, or even actively dislike/hate, but out of freaking nowhere they have this one song that is just so awesome it makes you wonder where in the hell they got it, and why they weren't able to go to that place again for equally good songs?

  i have two personal examples:.

  hotel california, the eagles.

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  First of all, my biggest problem with The Eagles is the length of their songs - did they ever do a song that lasted less than 5:00? Every one of them seems to go on and on. Hotel California is a solid effort, but it's saved by the great guitar work at the end; if not for that, it would just be another overly long Eagles song. And don't even get me started on Lying Eyes.

  As for Mr. Wonder, I think he had a lot of really good songs: Superstition, I Wish, Do I Do, That Girl, Living For The City, You Haven't Done Nothin' being among my favorites. On the other hand, I hate Sir Duke.

  Now, some bands that had sublimely great songs but who I otherwise didn't like and wondered how they ever became as popular as they did:

  Kansas - Carry On My Wayward Son is a great song, but otherwise I tired quickly of their sound, especially that freaking violin.

  Boston - Foreplay/Longtime is a classic, just a terrific song. But otherwise, this group sounded the same all the time.

  Foreigner - Double Vision is a great song, but otherwise I couldn't stomach this band, save for one or two nice ballads they had.

  Pink Floyd - My obejction entails just one album, the famous Dark Side Of The Moon. Money is a awesome song, but otherwise I personally think this album is terribly overrated. I'll probably get flamed for such blasphemy.
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  Most-Ignored Scriptures by JWs

  by Mad Sweeney in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower has been known for over 130 years as a great scriptural cherry-picker.

  they pick out disparate unrelated verses and combine them to support the wackiest of wacky doctrines.. on the other hand there are many scriptures they almost never address, whether because they contradict wt doctrine or because they simply don't have a clue what they mean or how to spin them to the wt advantage.. one of these is revelation 19:1 that mentions a "great crowd" "in heaven.

  " the only time it is ever brought up it is dismissed.

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  First of all, interesting thread, and many good comments. However, it seems as though some replies contain scriptures that the jws don't ignore but simply interpret differently.

  Among those often ignored is one quoted by Olin Moyle's Ghost, and with good reason - the WTS simply cannot interpret this scripture without the irony of implicating themselves: :Luke 21:8: He said: “Look out that YOU are not misled; for many will come on the basis of my name, saying, ‘I am he,’ and, ‘The due time has approached.’ Do not go after them. [In other words, Jesus said don't follow religious leaders who say The End is near.]"
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  Did leaving the WT build greater appreciation for or kill your reading of the Bible?

  by lepermessiah in

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  i am really on the fence on this issue right now and would love some opinions.. i find that i dont sit down and read the bible for long periods since becoming inactive, but on the other hand, individual scriptures mean much more to me now.. i will sit down and look up some favorite passages from time to time and feel like its the first time i really "got it" - without the jw goggles on.

  i love matthew chapter 23, since i think it describes to a tee the situation in jw congregations.

  i think if jesus returned today, he would blast the elders and "leaders" of the borg in a similar fashion (along with most religious leaders) .matthew 24 is actually more interesting to me now, simply because my whole life was waiting for the 1914 generation to end sometime during the reagan era!

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  Very interesting thread...

  The WT experience killed religion for me, but not necessarily the Bible. I still read it, and have found that I've been able to finally consider other 'possibilities' such as some accounts being mere stories told to make a point rather than being actual events - i.e., the Flood, the Red Sea crossing, etc. I'm not saying these things did or did not happen (though there's no evidence of a global flood), I'm saying that just being able to consider the possibility of it has freed my mind and allowed me to look at the Bible in a different way instead of the WT way.

  Leaving the Jws also opened my mind to the realities of evolutionary science (not to start a debate or go off-topic). But I now look at life on earth a lot differently than I used to.

  Also, I've found myself more open-minded in looking into various Bible commentaries, etc. In many ways, I've learned far more than I ever did as a jw. The WTS had us believing that only they really understood the Bible; but in fact, there's a heck of a lot of Bible knowledge waiting to be had by simply picking up a good commentary or finding one online.
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  Are Jehovah's Witnesses enjoying their new SABBATH???

  by Terry in

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  according to the bible timetable, man's history on earth has been nearly 6,000 years.

  adam was created in 4026 b.c.e., which means that six thousand years of human history end about the fall of 1975 c.e.

  we are in the great 7,000-year rest day of god, starting at the time he rested after the creation of adam and eve.

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  .".... True, there have been those in times past who predicted an "end to the world," even announcing a specific date.... Yet, nothing happened. The "end" did not come. They were guilty of false prophesying. Why? What was missing? Missing was the full measure of evidence required in fulfillment of Bible prophecy. Missing from such people were God's truths and the evidence that he was guiding and using them."

  By their own words they stand convicted of false prophecy.
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  We can give gifts all year long

  by bluecanary in

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  this is the famous witness saying in defense of the way they don't give gifts on holidays.

  of course, even though we all said it, no one in my family did this.

  none of my friends' families did this.

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  It is indeed a famous jw saying, and it holds no water in actual practice. It's just their way of trying to show that they are "normal", when in fact they seldom if ever give gifts other than on special occasions.

  That said, I do think they have the right idea about Christmas giving. I'm not saying that their viewpoint is correct (I think Christmas has evolved to the point where it's simply a family holiday and its pagan origins are no longer much of a factor), but that Christmas has become so commercialized that gift-giving is often done out of compulsion. At least that's how I feel - after trying to celebrate Christmas for about 8 years now, I still cannot get past the blatant commercialization and the compelling obligation that I feel to give gifts.
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  I Believe McNabb Is Tired

  by snowbird in

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  he should move over and allow room for michael vick.. did anyone see vick's touchdown pass against dallas in the playoff?.

  awesome!.

  a little something from vick's bio: .

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  Michael Vick throws one TD pass and you're ready to anoint him as the Eagles' best chance to win? When Vick was in his prime, he was at best a questionably accurate passer. In the modern NFL, accuracy is of tremendous importance. If a QB is not completing at least 60-65% of his passes, he will have limited effectiveness. Vick's percentage was often in the 50's in terms of percentile, and sure enough, his effectiveness was limited.