I read the Scripture differently than you do. I see at least a degree of deconstruction of race implied. I'm not saying it says to "forget" or "displace" their racial ties. I'm saying that there's a matter of degree implied.
rocketman
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WatchtowerÂ’s Collective
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtowers collective .
today i added a new article to my blog highlighting a fairly recent study of the watchtower organizations treatment of raced people.
what she ends up stating is shocking to read, but its what folks have been saying for years and years.
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WatchtowerÂ’s Collective
by Marvin Shilmer inwatchtowers collective .
today i added a new article to my blog highlighting a fairly recent study of the watchtower organizations treatment of raced people.
what she ends up stating is shocking to read, but its what folks have been saying for years and years.
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rocketman
Colossians 3:11: "In Christ there is not Greek and Jew, circumcision and uncircumcision, barbarian, Scythian, slave and free; but Christ is all and in all. " (Holman Christian Standard Bible)
Doesn't that scripture argue that there is, to some degree, a "deconstruction" of race, with Jesus Christ (as opposed to a particular religion) as the focus of allegiance?
The argument, of course, is to what degree the WTS replaces Christ. But whatever the case, Christians are asked to set aside racial and national divisions in the interests of unity in Christ.
Comments on this scripture, from Barnes' Notes On The Bible "But Christ is all, and in all - The great thing that constitutes the uniqueness of the church is, that Christ is its Saviour, and that all are his friends and followers. Its members lay aside all other distinctions, and are known only as his friends. They are not known as Jews and Gentiles; as of this nation or that; as slaves or freemen, but they are known as Christians; distinguished from all the rest of mankind as the united friends of the Redeemer".
Jehovah's Witnesses, of course, claim to "lay aside all other distinctions" too, in the interests of their religious unity.
Does the third-party academic allow for the fact that Christianity calls for a setting aside of racial distinctions? If so, then the question is simply whether the WTS substitutes itself for Christ. But if not, then that academic may not fully appreciate that what occurs among Jehovah's Witnesses in this regard is something that the Bible calls for among those claiming unity with Christ.
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WITH LADY LEE IN, A NEWLY REBRANDED AWAA IS GETTING BETTER EACH DAY
by Scott77 inlooks like the awaa people are here to stay.
i sense they have withered the rentless criticism and now have been refined for the long haul.
they have been washed in the previous blood of jesus christ and declared fit to the fine fight.
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rocketman
AAWA, like a certain organization we all know and, cough, cough,....love, is going through an early "testing" and "sifting".
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My Final Goodbye
by Lady Lee ini want to start by saying i will not participate in discussion here about my resignation as a moderator at jwn.. simon please consider this as my resignation from that position.. i have been posting on this board for almost 12 years.
i know some of you a lot, others a little and some not very well at all.
i have remained here for those of you who have needed support as you make the transition out of the wts, who needed someone to listen to your experiences of abuse at the hands of jehovah's witnesses, and to both laugh and cry with you as you progress out of the watchtower society.. we know that we have all experienced the cruelty of abuse of one kind or another.
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rocketman
Farkel's post was interesting - the prophets worked as individuals, not as a part of a group.
Aside from that, another person writing a 'Goodbye' thread. I've seen my fair share of them.
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WT: Train your kids to shut up - April 2013 OKM
by aposta-Z inquote from april 2013 our kingdom ministry; available on here: http://jwleaks.org/ .
" even if they are too young to understand everything that is discussed, children can be trained to remain awake and sit.
quietly.
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rocketman
This is one area (there are others) were the churches have it all over the jws - they have programs for kids, child care, etc. Witness children, meanwhile, have to sit through meetings obviously geared toward adults.
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WT Society Changes Definitions of Words to Control JW's for Their Agenda
by flipper inmy wife and i were discussing this and thought of a few examples of words that the wt society changes meanings on in order to accomplish their own self serving agenda .
the term - generation - definition in webster's new world dictionary : " generation - a single stage or degree in the succession of natural descent ( father, son, and grandson are three generations ) .
the average period ( about thirty years ) between the birth of one generation and that of the next .
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rocketman
In all fairness, the term "generation" is not limited to a 30-year or so time frame as it is used in the Bible. Various Bible dictionaries supply several definitions depending on the context:
topicalbible.org/g/generation.htm
The link won't copy on my computer.
Interestingly, the word can also include the thought of "race" or "class", and some Bible commentators apply the use of "this generation" at Matthew 24:34 to the Jews, in effect saying that the Jewish race would remain "until all these things occur".
Again, I am frustrated in my attempts to provide a link.
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Signs - Jesus - Has the Scripture Been Misread ?
by *lost* inmeletivivlon.com - interesting and enlightening theory on jesus and the signs.. wars, earthquakes, food shortages.. what if jesus meant the very opposite ?
jesus said - look out that nobody misleads you.
( jesus warning us as a safegaurd for us not to be mislead about exactly when the time would come ) .
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rocketman
Alan F suggested as much in an essay some years ago, namely, that the events of Matthew 24, Mark 13, and Luke 21 were going to happen anyway, and that Jesus was using them to convey the idea that those occurances should not cause one to follow false Messiahs.
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BUILD IT AND THEY WILL COME.....let's rebuild!
by Terry inokay we've all beat our chest, lamented and throttled the dead horse of aawa.. time to move on!.
i suggest those of us on j-w.n who care about creating something the right way take the trouble to get the framework going.. let's do the grunt work and get the nattering, debates, naming and organizing already pre-approved so that "others" who have the talent, ability, motivation and resources can move in and turn the key!.
because it was not done before.. there is more wisdom on this discussion board in our vast numbers than there could possibly be in a virtual boardroom with 8 people brain-storming.. that isn't an insult--it is just a statistical fact!.
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rocketman
I wouldn't opt to put TTATT on a T-Shirt. It looks too much like TATAS, which is already the ill-advised (to me anyway) slang for breasts, as in Save The TATAS.
I've always thought that TTATT was a confusing acroymn, T-Shirt or no.
TTATT is a complete non-starter.
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All Things Fulffilled In The1st Century
by maccauk11 inall things were fulfilled in the 1st century.it was obvious the messiah was talking to the people in that generation not a generation 2000 years later.. christianity has for 2000 years placed itself in the shoes of those 1st century beleivers and think all things pertainott hem today.when infact none of it does.
the prohecise of the messiah cmae true in the 1st century including revelation which is symbolic, metaphorical apocolyptic language showing all tha thad been done .
the kingdom is here.the king rules and has done for 2000 years.
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rocketman
Spellcheck.
And please don't tell us that your English isn't very good.
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What did I miss? New twist on a very old song, SHUNNING?
by freeflyingfaerie inis there new info coming out in june watchtower about how to treat families?.
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rocketman
Well, it's a good thing that Robert didn't die during those 16 years; his family may have never known.