Posts by rocketman

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This Relatively New Governing Body @ Bethel Not Liked By Bethelites Even the Ass Kissers

by frankiespeakin in

when i was a bethelite back many years ago(1970's), a lot of bethelites would say negative things about knorr, kline, and other members of the gb in private conversation.

there was at that time more freedom to express these things without feeling too threatened, which i feel is no longer the case.. now we have a completely new governing body all appointed after 1999 except for losch(1994).

since that time we have seen a steady increase in authoritarianism from this self proclaimed august body, where no descension or voicing a negative opinon with reguards to the governing body is allowed.

rocketman

"So while the Governing Body are basking in the approval and ass kissing nature of those that surround them there must also be gossip behind their backs about them there at bethel, so to their faces everything is good and people are obediant but behind their backs is an under current of dislike and talk of incompetence, about these NewBoys on the GB."

Do you have evidence of this? You're making an assumption. While it may be somewhat valid, based on past experience, it's still only an assumption.

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No Booing Allowed At District Conventions Especially During Apostate Hate Speech Talks

by frankiespeakin in

this district assembly talk is so bad it a shame that no one is allowed to get up boo it, or voice anything negative about it, they have a captive audience of heads noding yes and claps of approval and agreement with every word or else.. it would liven up things if a group spread out in a stadium and started yelling "hate speech hate speech!

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rocketman

Yet another thread started by frankiespeakin.

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Atheist Blogger Visits Kingdom Hall

by Bangalore in

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atheist blogger visits kingdom hall.. .

http://doubtingmark.wordpress.com/2013/06/04/jehovahs-witness-kingdom-hall-ballard/.

bangalore.

rocketman

Good read, and accurate - same with the comments left for that blog entry.

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Forum Policy: Off Topic Comments and Nonsense

by Simon in

some people didn't seem to get the message so i'll repeat it to make clear:.

posting off topics comments and general gibberish / nonsense is something i class as spam and will not be tolerated.. any posts found will be removed and if it's repeatedly by the same poster then they will be deleted as well.. thank you for everyone else who uses the forum for proper discussion..

rocketman

Nice to see you deleted my post, and then corrected your spelling of the word "tolerated", which you misspelled in your initial post, Simon.

Why delete my post? A little humor bother ya, bro?

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Due to Ongoing Concern about Dwindling Meeting Attendances, IS THE BOOK STUDY ARRANGEMENT GOING TO BE RE-INSTATED NEXT YEAR?

by steve2 in

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i have some family and friends still in the organization.

i don't actively seek updates - my lovely contacts provide me with them unsolicited.

so far the updates have been reliable and confirmed sooner or later by subsequent developments.

rocketman

I don't see it happening either (nor have I heard anything to that effect), for many of the aformentioned reasons.

And like Blondie, I vividly recall from the days of my youth the 15 minute intermission between the Public Talk and WT Study, 5 (or more) day Conventions, three-day circuit assemblies (Friday night and then Sat and Sun), complete with full meals cooked on site, and other features that, to a JW today, would seem like a tremendous burden - which is exactly what it was.

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OKC TORNADO - GLAD god IS WORKING OUT UNIVERSAL SOVEREIGNTY

by Comatose in

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for fu@$ sake.

6000 years of it and still figuring out this universal sovereignty.

gimme a break.

rocketman

Incidents like this tornado and its consequences are, frankly, easier explained by atheism. Taking God out of the equation makes such devastation and loss easier to understand, namely, that we live on a planet that is not always so nice to live on, and that powerful natural forces can do us in at any time.

No need to ponder 'why didn't God intervene' and 'why does he allow...?' and so on and and on, if there is simply no God.

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Is this example in the Jeremiah Book Geoffrey Jackson

by konceptual99 in

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in the jeremiah book this week there was this example used to bash further education.... .

12 a brother now serving at world headquarters was 15 when he was offered a scholarship to a university.

to his teachers dismay, he did not accept that offer, preferring a career as a pioneer.

rocketman

Good point DOC.

These examples, just as biblical examples such as Paul, are in the minority, and yet constantly trumpeted as examples to imitate. How many first-century Christians did what Paul did? And now many modern-day JWs do what Jackson did and end up living the pampered life of a GB member, or, for that matter, accomplish anything noteworthy?

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What does your screen name/avatar mean and what does it stand for

by BU2B in

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and why did you choose it?

if you have a avatar, what is it and why did you pick it?.

ok ill start.

rocketman

Speaking of avatars, it's too bad this board doesn't have a Control Panel which would allow easy changes.

It used to when it was JWD.

During Google searches on jw-related topics, this site often comes up first. People then see these stupid-looking gravitars. It's a poor first impression for what is otherwise a very good place for searching jws and others to get some answers.

This is the only web board I know that has no way of altering it other than via another site, and even then you have to use the e-mail associated with your account here - an e-mail address I stopped using long ago and no longer can recall.

I know this board was closed and then re-emerged with this technically inferior version for cost and maintenance reasons, but I'd like to at least have a Control Panel.

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WT August 15, 2013 QFR - Sitting next to a disfellowshipped child at meetings

by Designer Stubble in

page 8 of the latest wt (insider version) has a whole page dedicated to the question whether it is appropriate to sit next to a disfellowshipped child at meetings.. not sure how to paste this in, but check jw.org.

perhaps someone can do this for me.. horrible, no words really on how pharisee like their cult grip and control has become!.

first of all, without any shame they are talking about disfellowshipped minors.

rocketman

ADCM Shirly wrote "If a JWs faith can be shaken so easily and they can be "stumbled" at the slightest thing, or will abandon the religion if they do a little research or critical thinking, it really shows how utterly weak the religion is."

Exactly. These people can't think for themselves. They don't know how to weigh their own "principles" and form them into a reasonable course of action or decision. They must be told everything.

I can just picture Jehovah's Little Judges in congregations, making a fuss of some kid sitting with his parents.

And this is yet another byproduct of an overly strict interpretation of scripture. The Pharisees had the same problem. Once you start regulating every behavior, questions arise, and the splitting of hairs (or the straining out of gnats) ensues.

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Have the leaders of JWs ever said 'sorry'?

by JWB in

well have they?

given that 'we are all imperfect and fall down many times' one would expect them to have made at least some mistakes since rutherford founded the jw religion.

as christians are supposed to be humble, including those who 'would be great among you', should we not have seen evidence of this over such a long time period?.

rocketman

Designer Stubble, that's a great quote - and it could actually be used, virtually verbatim, to construct an apology by the Watchtower Society, since it covers most of what's wrong with the Witness religion, which also refers to others as "so-called Christians" and has clouded the gospel message with its own predictions and works-oriented approach.