No offense to anyone from Coventry but its amazing how to this day its still a dump.
CookieMonster
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Have You Been "Sent to Coventry"?
by compound complex ingreetings, fellow posters:.
if you're from the uk -- or of the pure english expression in another kingdom -- you have probably heard this expression.
i learned it from an elderly english chap.
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The most amazing pharoah in history yet he's not even mention in the bible!
by Crazyguy inhis name was unas, he started his rule in 2375 bce .
some how he found out about noah and his ark and i'm thinking around the year 2371 he travel to northern mesopotamia to get on the ark.
(wt says the flood happened 2370-2369 bce) either he bribed noah (since gods covenant was only for noah and his family) or he hid away on the ark.
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CookieMonster
"Noah and his ark" this is when I stopped reading fiction
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Medical doctor describes a JW death from noblood
by OrphanCrow inmost people will consider the noblood doctrine as being something that affects only the jws involved and they rarely consider the medical professionals who have to deal with them and the tremendous emotional and mental toll the medical professionals are forced to deal with when confronting senseless death.. the following is an excerpt from a medical doctor's blog: .
i do not worry much about being dead although the process of getting there gives me pause.
i have witnessed a few unpleasant deaths and i hope to never see the grim reaper coming my way.. one of the more awful and pointless deaths occurred early in my career.
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CookieMonster
Sadly the GB may never change their stance on blood, imagine if that happens and the litigation that follows will bury the WT
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Can an atheist date jw?
by concernCitizen inhey everyone!.
first of all, i'm not a jw, in fact i'm an atheist, or if you really want to be technical about it i'm probably something like an agnostic atheist or something.. but, my girlfriend is a jw, she seems very rational about it though, it seems to me that she believes in a lot of it but not exactly all, for instance she does understands and believes in the scientific age of the earth and evolution.. when we started dating almost a year ago she made it clear she as religious person.
i never saw that as a problem, it's not like i'm trying to convert her or she's trying to convert me.
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CookieMonster
Well, first of all JWs are only allowed to 'date' within their faith and even then its with a view to marriage. So what she has done - dating a 'worldly' person - that is one who is not a JW - is a big No No. She can get into trouble for this but perhaps not disfellowshiped (if things haven't gone too far) - that is being excommunicated which is not the same as disassociation where one chooses to leave by their own accord.
However, if she has been dancing the 'tango' with you in the bedroom, or petting the one-eyed snake she is in a heap of trouble and can be disfellowshipped. This can be a very traumatic experience for her and her family. If one's daughter or son is disfellowshipped and continues to practice 'wrong doing', JW parents may ask her or him to leave the household. Particularly if there are siblings since they are now 'bad apples'. She could essentially be cut-off from her family, JW friends and left to fend for herself. Its a frightening prospect especially if you are a 'born-in' and all your friends and family are JW. It has driven some to suicide!
So the question is, does she want to choose JW over you? if thats the case, she will break the relationship, confess to the 'elders' and perhaps get disfellowshipped anyway. But she will continue to attend meetings in silence and accept her 'reproof'. After perhaps a year or so, she will get 're-instated' and will have her family and friends back. This will be the end of the line for your relationship so both of you may decide to have an amicable break-up.
If she chooses you over the JW religion, then she may 'disassociate' herself which is a clean-break. Her family and friends won't talk to her anymore but she will have you. Or she can try 'fading' - this is when one slowly disassociates from every day JW activity such as meetings, service but still is a JW in the books. But if found out for wrong doing, said person can be disfellowshipped. This is possible but requires careful planning and moving away to an area where no body knows you for a fresh start. Risky maneuver especially if she wants to keep in touch with her family.
How much do you love her? Is marriage perhaps on the pipe-line? There is a way for her to have her cake and eat it too. However, she will need to come clean with the elders and get disfellowshipped. She goes through her 'reproof' and you continue your relationship and get married to her during this period. She then gets 're-instated' as a JW and gets to associate with her family and friends. They will associate with you since you are both married and as an 'unbelieving' mate and you will get love bombed by the congregation in the hope you get converted. Just keep it sweet, attend the once a year memorial, the sunday of the annual JW convention and things will be cushti.
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So This is What They are Studying This Week at the Mid-Week Meeting -"Don't Give Way to Doubt"
by xjwsrock inthis week they finish up a chapter in the "imitate their faith" book about peter.
they cover the account of jesus walking on water.
in the story peter also walks on the water out to jesus.
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CookieMonster
Believe you doubters
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The bitter reality of death
by Bonsai inbeen a lot of death in my life recently.
a close family member died yesterday.
a close friend died 8 weeks ago - both from cancer.
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CookieMonster
When I was waking up, I found death and the prospect of being non-existent forever a bitter pill to swallow. Now however, I'm coming to terms with my own mortality. It makes me appreciate life more, friends and family, this beautiful planet and everything that I have and not take things for granted. How lucky am I to win this lottery of life by the throw of a dice - It was to be me and not the countless others who could have been in my place. I hope when the time comes for me to leave, I would have done my bit to make this world a better place.
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There is a new letter to elders about Child Abuse
by ttdtt inanyone see that there is a long letter on how to handle child abuse?.
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CookieMonster
Elders still not required to alert the authorities, this shows total disregard to the wider community. The offender may be dis-fellowshipped but he or she may continue to prey on kids in the neighborhood. Reporting to the authorities and putting the offender in the sex register is the loving and right thing to do. But I guess it doesn't matter since they are "worldly" people.
I also wish all appointed men get DBS checked since for all practical reasons they do work with children.
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New DNA Study Confirms Noah
by notsurewheretogo inhttp://www.icr.org/article/9325/.
amazing read...go on , have a laugh if you want to.. new dna study confirms noah.
by brian thomas, m.s.
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Watched The Bunker Videos Again On JWSurvey
by JW_Rogue ini watched the bunker videos again and noticed something strange.
even though none of the characters had actually been disloyal to the org when commended for their loyalty they all say "it wasn't always that way".
it was always that way, none of them had actually sinned!
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CookieMonster
This has to be a new level of crazy....lol
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JW TV, this month about evolution
by bohm inthis month the last segment is about evolution.
one is with a sister with a university education in biochemistry who (presumably) teaches at a highschool or public school.
she says that left handedness of amino acids indicates life was created because "if it was a random process half would be right handed and half left handed" (paraphrased).
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CookieMonster
Watchtower should stop embarrassing themselves with pseudoscience, everything I was told and learnt in the Evolution or Creation book was utterly biased and misleading. When it comes to evidence and scientific method it is very hard to deny evolution.
I wonder if one day the Watchtower will take a similar stand as the rest of the worlds religion and acknowledge that evolution is fact and the creation story was a metaphor.