Posts by Patrick45

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I'm 16 and I might be pregnant In a JW household

by NYsweet16 in

okay, i don't even know where to start.

i'm 16, i live in a strict jw household and i know if i am pregnant (which is a big possibility) ..i know i'm doomed to a life of misery.

not because of my baby but because of my family and the isolation and judgement from the congregation.

Patrick45

Hi there

First let me assure you that many here have compassion for your situation. Is there no compassion from your parents even in such a messy situation? Please check on the internet where you might get counsel and help. There are lots of professionals in your community (social services...) that are real nice and good people, ready to help. There is hope! Although your "normal" life is shaken up, there is always a way to get things right. Be strong and make slow, well thought and resolute moves. God bless you dear.

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On the Relevancy of The Institutionalization of Sin

by Perry in

child murder, sodomy & corrupting the human genome are not new sins, they are old ones.

what is new is their institutionalization.

but even that isn't totally new.

Patrick45

Each time someone supports the biblical take on sexual relations, there is strong polarization, even hatred. This intolerance is generating so much intolerance, funny no.

The concept of sin is more and more rejected by most, to the point of criminalizing those who dare to say that same-sex relations are wrong in the eyes of the God of the Bible.

If there is no God why should you worry, or if your conviciton is that we are free to do whatever crosses our heart why feeling attacked?

I want to point to a more grave problem related to sexuality. Worldwide some 40 000 000 humans are killed by abortion each year. This is very immoral in my eyes and unmatched in history. There is much blood being shed in the name of liberty and freedom. If people would respect the law of the Bible this misery would be prevented to a high degree.

What humanity does not grasp, is that it is beneficial to us to respect the divine given precepts. Peace to you all

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'Anointeds' Do you know any and if so what are they like ?

by Introvert 2 in

would like to hear about any experiences anyone has had with the so called ' anointed ' .

Patrick45

Here some considerations about being "anointed".

According to the Bible it's a perceptible change. I confirm this.

--it gives you a special relation to God and Christ. I confirm this.

--these privileges can be lost. I agree as father disciplines those he loves.

--it does not take your free will from you. I concur, turning away is easy.

If you think those are strong and special and super clean and bright, it's possible, but the bible says that the calling is often open for just those who are nothing special in this world.

What struck me most was the cleaning of the mind once "it" happened.

Salvation is by grace for each and everyone, no matter how far he or she might believe to be onto the road of life and righteousness.

God bless

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Seven Shepherds Eight Dukes

by Ish Elon in

who is the assyrian?.

the article entitled seven shepherds, eight dukesawhat they mean for us today in the watchtower of the 15th november 2013 contained this important warning in paragraph 16: ain the near future, jehovahas apparently vulnerable people will come under attack from the modern-day aassyrian,a whose intent will be to wipe them out.a it goes on to say: awhat asecret weapona does micahas prophecy indicate jehovah would raise up against that implacable foeaathe assyriana?

a very unlikely oneaaseven shepherds, yes, eight dukesa!

Patrick45

Not good it is to focus on too much peculiar Bible interpretation, Yoda would say. Stay focused on the main message or the vital parts.

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I have nothing left in the tank, I need help

by Yondaime in

i dont have the willpower to attend meetings anymore.

i'm literally on the sound system list every week.

i'm either reading on sunday or tuesday, praying on tuesday nites, adjusting mics, passing mics, or working the sound system, or doing last minute parts for the service meeting.

Patrick45

Take a chatter session with an elder and tell him what you like and are willing to do and what your schedule does not allow anymore. Tell them that you are exhausted and that you need a little slowdown.

He will most likely pressure you to drop the college. If there are unskilled workers who cant meet the ends or have to do shifts or overtime and therefore miss lots of theocratic activities or who have become inactive, name those and tell the elder that you dont want to end up this way. Better doing some sacrifices now for a limited time than for the rest of your working carreer.

Use this or similar if applicable. Never use lies!

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I am sooo screwed

by Yondaime in

so last night i was talking to my sister about how i admired president obama's speech to the u.n that happened earlier that day.. i then compared the extremism of isis to how much of a fanatic my jw bil is.. at the end of the statement , my mom walked in to the kitchen.

she was standing in the living room and she heard everything i said.. she called the elders that night to tell them what i said so they can counsel me.. i'm going to meet with them after the meeting on sunday!.

what do i do?!!!!!.

Patrick45

Just in a very polite manner decline the backroom session. Thank them for their concerns and reassure them, that you will search counsel in case of need.

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Glory of creation is still untouched!

by Pinku in

according to plato, the universe thrives on its own, dies and gets rebornall on its own and within itself.

the wise symbolized this concept in ouroboros, a serpent eating its own tail.

[even more wonderful is the marvel called a fruit-bearing treeit does not even eat its own fruit, but simply subsists on mostly what we may consider as dirt/refuse; and trees collectively perform yet another marvel of photosynthesis that make use of our wastes and give us oxygen, food, water, shelter, fiber..........................................[http://www.nytimes.com/2014/09/20/opinion/to-save-the-planet-dont-plant-trees.html?_r=0].

Patrick45

Those touting laws of physics should also consider the law of entropy and the law of cause and effect.

In regards of entropy, here one thought. Shoot at a washing maschine and hope to find it doing the drying and the ironing job afterwards. The living organismes are way more complex than a washing maschine.

Cause and effect. Take a pencil. Think about all the knowledge and the ingenuity that was necessary to come to that simple item.

Now take the whole of the living world with all its complex interdependent processes and systems. A pencil is nothing in comparison. Now is it pure stupidity to consider an incredible enormous and wise and ingenious creator behind all of this?

A book called the Bible says about those who chose to believe the lie of evolution to be without excuse when judgement is spoken. I would not want to stand against a truck in full speed. Compare...

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Spritual Healers.

by quellycatface in

jw
friends

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i don't believe in all this stuff and found it a bit creepy when he laid his hand on my arm, i suffer from "ladies problems" myself.. what's your opinion on this kind of thing??.

should be an interesting discussion.. .

Patrick45

Every charismatic community should send one gifted person to Africa to provide for cure for Ebola. How many have already gone?

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There will never, never be Peace and Security here on Earth.

by jam in

who are we fooling, as long as we humans exist there.

will never be peace even under god's rule.. i think god realize he have created a mess and said screw this .

and have left us on our own.. each day there is another crisis, what's next.... there is no solution to bring harmony among mankind, hell.

Patrick45

jam, this is not so wrong. The fact that Jesus will have to rule with a iron shepther and after the millenium there will be a big Gog-Magog war. Salvation here on earth is an illusion. Read Rev. 21 last verses. Even during the millenium the goal will be to enter New Jerusalem. Place of salvation (rev 22:14). Outside nothing good finds perpetual blessings. (v.15)

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Poll--How Many Believe In God, Do Not Believe or Are Not Sure Of His Existence?

by minimus in

jw
friends

i believe in god but i'm not sure of anything....what about you?.

Patrick45

Believing is not an option. The q. is whether you build your life in a positive way upon this faith. Remember, even the demons believe. This hardly gives them any positive outlook for their existence.