Posts by Skinnedsheep

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Watchtower Legal Department targeting Facebook and Youtube users

by Londo111 in

from an email i received of a conversation had with people from patterson:.

it seems that the wts legal dept.

has been working with the fb [facebook] legal dept for about a year and also with youtube whoever they are, to enforce transparency.

I'm out- Random thoughts on leaving as I look in the rear view mirror

by Skinnedsheep in

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it is amazing to look back at three years and see the journey that we have taken.

i went from being an elder to fading completely in the course of those three years.

along the way i am happy to say that my lovely wife woke up and realized that the truth is nothing but a lie.

Thank you all for your comments. I wish the same success to those who were in my position. It is funny both my wife and I are now at the point where if the Elders wanted to df us we would probably just shrug and say "whatever". It is a good place to be to have gotten past the fear of man.

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I'm out- Random thoughts on leaving as I look in the rear view mirror

by Skinnedsheep in

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it is amazing to look back at three years and see the journey that we have taken.

i went from being an elder to fading completely in the course of those three years.

along the way i am happy to say that my lovely wife woke up and realized that the truth is nothing but a lie.

Skinnedsheep

Thanks guys.

@BerryGerry I hope to be old and satisfied in a rocking chair!

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I'm out- Random thoughts on leaving as I look in the rear view mirror

by Skinnedsheep in

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it is amazing to look back at three years and see the journey that we have taken.

i went from being an elder to fading completely in the course of those three years.

along the way i am happy to say that my lovely wife woke up and realized that the truth is nothing but a lie.

Skinnedsheep

It is amazing to look back at three years and see the journey that we have taken. I went from being an Elder to fading completely in the course of those three years. Along the way I am happy to say that my lovely wife woke up and realized that the “truth” is nothing but a lie. We abruptly stopped attending meetings this last January. I thought it would be hard to just leave but honestly none of our friends called, emailed or texted to see why we were missing. We did receive a visit from the elders a few months after we stopped where we politely told them that when we wanted to talk we would call them. Silence and halfway shunning has resulted from long time so called friends. These are the same people that will go to all ends to talk to someone who doesn’t share their faith in the hope of convincing them to join. I find it incredibly ironic.

What also amazes and hurts me is to realize that all of the people that I cared for deeply really couldn’t care less about us. This is shown by the zero calls or emails that we have gotten. That’s a good thing I guess. The rumor mill has started apparently. We are now “apostates”, and I am branded as forbidding my family from attending the meetings. None of this is true but if people want to believe something without proof or evidence it is entirely their prerogative. Witnesses look for the worst in people, and when it isn’t there, they make it up.

As a family we are happier than we have ever been. My wife has done a great job of making new friends, and has started a business that is creative and interesting. I have a great career and have recently returned to college to finish my degree. We have joined some community groups and are spending more time volunteering at our daughters school, as well as supporting charitable organizations. Our kids are happier now that we aren’t witnesses also.

We have become less judgmental and are enjoying getting to know people for who they are, not what they claim to be. It is so nice to drop the phobia of how worldly people will corrupt you. During this time we have heard about witnesses who have had their marriages implode, witnesses who have hooked up with others, and other crazy things. The entire religion creates terrible actors, as witnesses try to pretend to be something that they aren’t and frankly don’t want to be just for the sake of appearances. It is all fake and these fake people are the ones who look down their nose at those of us who have quit. Upon reflection it is incredibly sad to see 7+million who are frantically trying to keep up appearances to impress their phony brotherhood.

If you are thinking about leaving I would encourage you to do so. Leaving the organization will give you true freedom. It is painful but worth it.

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Two more quitters!

by apocalypse in

in my city, there's been a husband and wife who quit this week.

hurray!.

the first thing that came to mind when i heard it was 'they didn't need my help'.. you see, many in my city who quit in the past were previously on my mailing list.

Skinnedsheep

I am very curious

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Lying about Shunning! jw.org conceals the "truth"

by Skinnedsheep in

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http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/ .

"those who were baptized as jehovahs witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.

in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.".

Skinnedsheep

@Spacemadness

it is on a page that is misleadingly titled

Do Jehovah’s Witnesses Shun Former Members of Their Religion?

this is the last paragraph of the article (I would ask people whose sons and daughters shun them if this last paragraph is accurate)

"What of a man who is disfellowshipped but whose wife and children are still Jehovah’s Witnesses? The religious ties he had with his family change, but blood ties remain. The marriage relationship and normal family affections and dealings continue."

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Lying about Shunning! jw.org conceals the "truth"

by Skinnedsheep in

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http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/ .

"those who were baptized as jehovahs witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned.

in fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest.".

Skinnedsheep

From JW.org

http://www.jw.org/en/jehovahs-witnesses/faq/shunning/

"Those who were baptized as Jehovah’s Witnesses but no longer preach to others, perhaps even drifting away from association with fellow believers, are not shunned. In fact, we reach out to them and try to rekindle their spiritual interest."

Compare that statement above with their mandated instructions to witnesses to shun their family below.

November 15, 2014 simplified edition "we must be holy in all our conduct"

5 At Leviticus 10:1-11, we read about a situation that caused Aaron’s family extreme pain. Jehovah sent fire from heaven to destroy Aaron’s sons Nadab and Abihu. God then told Aaron and his family that they could not show their grief in any way. What a test of faith! Are you proving yourself holy by not associating with family members or others who are disfellowshipped?—Read 1 Corinthians 5:11.

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Why The Watchtower Must Abolish Judicial Committees

by metatron in

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some years ago, i upset some crypto-watchtower apologists by stating that the organization must eventually either abolish the co arrangement or radically change it because it creates a direct chain of liability by chain of command and makes them a hierarchy (without catholic level assets or influence to support such a structure).. i would make a similar argument with regard to judicial committees.

i do not contend that the watchtower would get rid of these repellent anachronisms simply because they are unethical in form and use but rather that they represent an increasing liability/obstacle to the organization's survival.. why?.

1) such committees tend to open up all sorts of legal challenges and dangers.

Skinnedsheep

Best post in months

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I'm meeting with my congregation Elders Today HELP PLEASE

by LennaB in

meeting with my congregation elders today.. going to tell them about the things i discovered about c.t russell.

(astrology, racism, ect.

) i don't know how to present this information or what to say.

Skinnedsheep

All fake or embellished.

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An important message from a PRACTICING Jehovah's witness

by Sparks in

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hi, i am also a practicing jehovah's witness and very proud of it,to say the very-very least..!

i am a middle-aged man with many decades of being a witness of jehovah god in england.. this important letter is personally to you, just as many of the bible's 88 letters are to be taken personal by you the reader.

i am writing to you to urge you to take stock of your life, think what your future holds for you.

Skinnedsheep

You'd better practice some more. The bible has 66 books