why would the wts want to get rid of fence sitter?
as in, why are weak ones a burden to the cong, isn't that the whole point, to shepherd the flock?.
does anyone know if the gb gets a paycheck, flies first class, how they vacation?
A fence sitter could cause others to question and doubt.
I don't believe the Watchtowers main purpose is making money--if so, they would want a more career oriented, educated flock.
I believe the main purpose is to spread false doctrine, and destroy any shred of faith outside of that religion. I can't think of any other religion that creates ex members who are heavily atheist and agnostic.
i've heard about his bombastic, overly patronising, cartoon-ish delivery before, but i'd never actually seen it...until now.
and i should add, this religion bears little to no relation to the one i left 6 years ago.. .
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They can re-package themselves all they want, but this is still the same lying cult I grew up with!
traverse city alyce morales' sobs hung in a benzie county courtroom as she told a judge that panic gripped her after she secretly gave birth to a daughter in a tent.. .
morales, 19, of cicero, illinois, said she felt sorry every day since july 22, 2013, for what happened next.
she closed her fist and struck herself before hitting her daughter, marie, with a blow that fractured the infant's skull.. "i was in a really bad situation.
when i left the wt organization, i continued to believe in the bible, so i wanted to confirm and refine, as much as possible, my faith that the true god is in the bible.
so i began to discuss with skilled christians, who were also ex-witnesses.
but i was surprised when some of them tried to relax my fundamentalist position on the literalness of the genesis account.
Well I believe in original sin, I believe in the innerancy of the bible--definitely not the NWT though! I believe in a literal flood, and I believe in creation. That puts me more in line with my friends and family, but definitely separates me from most XJW's. If the Watchtower has a purpose for existing--it seems that ultimate purpose is to turn people away from Christianity.
this will be the first time i have communicated with former witnesses in this manner, so please be patient with me as i figure out how this all works.. it would be great to find a brother in scotland who could trace the membership records of the knights templar division of the masonic lodge that russell belonged to.. if indeed he was a 32nd degree master mason in the order, then he would have been practicing secret rituals for a considerable number of years during his adult life in order to achieve the title of master mason and being referred to as "worshipful master".. small wonder he was so determined to have his father (a mason with powerful contacts) on board the original bible study group.. makes it somewhat more understandable how he was able to give lectures in carnagie hall, and attract financing donations during the early years of the society.. what more could the rich families in america that supported the early zionist movement ask for than to support zion's watchtower and it"s elitist form of heavenly class distictions.. there are claims that joseph rutherford was also a member of the same masonic lodge as his mentor charles russell.. all this begs us to ask can a rotten tree ever produce good fruit?
or can a crooked tree be made to grow straight?.
welcome your thoughts and comments.
Even above he states several times to being a Free and Accepted Mason, but then again false prophets do cloak their words in confusing ways.
this will be the first time i have communicated with former witnesses in this manner, so please be patient with me as i figure out how this all works.. it would be great to find a brother in scotland who could trace the membership records of the knights templar division of the masonic lodge that russell belonged to.. if indeed he was a 32nd degree master mason in the order, then he would have been practicing secret rituals for a considerable number of years during his adult life in order to achieve the title of master mason and being referred to as "worshipful master".. small wonder he was so determined to have his father (a mason with powerful contacts) on board the original bible study group.. makes it somewhat more understandable how he was able to give lectures in carnagie hall, and attract financing donations during the early years of the society.. what more could the rich families in america that supported the early zionist movement ask for than to support zion's watchtower and it"s elitist form of heavenly class distictions.. there are claims that joseph rutherford was also a member of the same masonic lodge as his mentor charles russell.. all this begs us to ask can a rotten tree ever produce good fruit?
or can a crooked tree be made to grow straight?.
welcome your thoughts and comments.
this will be the first time i have communicated with former witnesses in this manner, so please be patient with me as i figure out how this all works.. it would be great to find a brother in scotland who could trace the membership records of the knights templar division of the masonic lodge that russell belonged to.. if indeed he was a 32nd degree master mason in the order, then he would have been practicing secret rituals for a considerable number of years during his adult life in order to achieve the title of master mason and being referred to as "worshipful master".. small wonder he was so determined to have his father (a mason with powerful contacts) on board the original bible study group.. makes it somewhat more understandable how he was able to give lectures in carnagie hall, and attract financing donations during the early years of the society.. what more could the rich families in america that supported the early zionist movement ask for than to support zion's watchtower and it"s elitist form of heavenly class distictions.. there are claims that joseph rutherford was also a member of the same masonic lodge as his mentor charles russell.. all this begs us to ask can a rotten tree ever produce good fruit?
or can a crooked tree be made to grow straight?.
welcome your thoughts and comments.
While doing research a few years back, I discovered a Charles T.Russell as a member of a masonic lodge in another state. It was common then for some people hold membership in lodges outside the area where they live. Also Russell admitted to being a freemason in one of his speeches. he just stated that he was from a different order than the group he was speaking to.
many jws believed in god.
now many here, do not believe in a deity.
how has this affected you in your life?.
Well I still believe in God, though the Devil has tried every trick in the book to destroy my faith. Even so far as having a "supposed" friend lead me to a church where the social dynamics worked against me. I walked away from that church, in order to keep my faith, even though I still have a good home church in Kentucky. I still believe in God, even though I don't have a good local church in Tennessee, nor do I have a desire to find one.
we received this link through an email chain.
not too sure what the purpose is....it's mostly about food.. .
vimeopro.com/user4747451/tnvideo.
This video was on the actual jw site 2 weeks ago, now I can't locate it. I wonder if the Whiskey distillery part was what caused them to remove it?
this post is mainly directed at bacs(born again christians) more so then jws because jws have set dates before whereas bacs have always claimed they are not "false prophets" like jws and mormons.
at 2 kings 20:1-4 the "prophet" isaiah come to hezekiah's deathbed and tells him to get his affairs in order because "the lord says you will not recover and you will die".
now if this is not a "thus saith the lord" prophecy then my name is not booker-t. then hezekiah wept and begged god to remember all the good things and his devotion to god.
Here's another question, why do some XJW's criticize the watchtower for twisting the bible, and then turn around and join a liberal religion that uses the same bible twisting tactics that the watchtower does?