Were there mostly boys or girls?
Shows how few are coming out of the territory.
Not not "men and women" but "boys and girls".
And as has been mentioned, when he was baptized, Jesus was not a "boy" he was a "man".
this is lifted from a downloadable 'childrens note book for the 2010 d/cs' :.
http://www.jwforum.net/portal/ i found it in the twitter section.
when do you want to be baptized?.
Were there mostly boys or girls?
Shows how few are coming out of the territory.
Not not "men and women" but "boys and girls".
And as has been mentioned, when he was baptized, Jesus was not a "boy" he was a "man".
from http://christianwitnesses.com/, i read the following below.
please what is your reaction to the action of the two elders?
if the account is colloborated, then its very troubling and shocking to say the least.
I have read some rubbish in my day...............................but that one takes the cake.
I have family who have been on the circuit work and used other translations all the time.
i'm new here but have been reading/lurking for several months.
it's good to know that i'm not alone in my ex-jw status and that my story and experiences are not unique.
i have no bitterness or anger anymore.... that's long gone since i left some 12 years ago.
Welcome Backspacer.
You're doing well.
I note that you are not a born-in. Be grateful. It is much easier to leave if you are not going to lose every friend and loved one.
this week's lesson for the book study covers chapter 4, paragraphs 18-24 of the "come be my follower" book.. in paragraph 24 we find this snippet:.
"...many have stood firm in the face of ridicule, persecution, arrest, imprisonment, torture, and even death.
where do imperfect humans get such courage?
Good one Sir82. Thanks for sharing.
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they came to greece and gave a talk.i don't remember their names but they were definately americans and the one italian something i think.the one was about 50-55 years old and the other guy was about 70+ bald and had some tufts of hair on his head and his voice was very strict,robotic,tending to be high pitched and the latter told us that we have to respect elders and the org's rules without questioning.they were not gb members but they are something like the touring gb.i remember faces.if you have pics post them.does anyone here know them?are there many cos?.
The ones I mentioned always travel from country to country
CO's don't travel from country to country. They stay within a circuit of about 20 congregations within a single branch.
As inquiryMan said Zone overseers travel (under the management of the service department in Brooklyn) to different branches.
i have stopped going assemblies.
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i am separating from my wife, the climate in the my house is very become incompatible .. .
I am separating from my wife, the climate in the my house is very become incompatible .
So sorry about that part.
they are zombies you know.
they are not thinking for themselves.
they let the governing body think for them.
That the WTS did not CONSISTENTLY teach that Christ's presence began in 1914 but rather for 30 years until 1929 taught it was 1874.
Same here Blondie,
I had nigglies over the years, but I trusted them. I actually used to think "If there is anyone in the world I can trust it's the leadership of the society".
So when I realised they had deliberately LIED about their past, I was absolutely devastated.
As Len Miller (Fatfreek) says “You can have honest mistakes but not honest lies.”
What follows appears to give the impression that it was always believed and taught that Christ would/did return in 1914. As examples: (Thank you MacHislop)
**w 1952 11/1p.658ABetterBasisforBelief***
16 As for the time of Christ’s second presence, Daniel’s prophecy is again the one that gives the chronology for it. (Dan. 4:16) It was figured out as pointing to A.D. 1914, and The Watchtower called notice to the significance of 1914 in the year 1879.
… The April 1, 1953 issue of The Watchtower on page 215 said:
". God purposed to use them as an organization to do a twofold work. First, they must proclaim that the Gentile times that began in 607 B. C. were due to come to an end A. D. 1914, at which time Jehovah would take to himself his official power and begin to reign in the heavens by his anointed King. So for some thirty-seven years prior to 1914 this proclamation was sounded."
* Quote from the year 1965:
--The Watchtower ' , July 15th, 1965 page 428
" As we look back over the years, we can clearly see how God's organization in modern times has progressed in understanding. For example, it learned that Christ's second presence was to be in the spirit, and not in the flesh as many professed Christians believe. His rule would be from the heavens. This was a new revelation of great importance to God's people who had beenanxiously awaiting his second presence toward the end of the nineteenth century.
The 1975Yearbook page 37 said:
"Even earlier, however, C. T. Russell wrote an article entitled "Gentile Times: When Do They End?" It was published in the Bible Examiner of October 1876, and therein Russell said: "The seven times will end in AD 1914."He had correctly linked the Gentile Times with the "seven times" mentioned in the book of Daniel. (Dan. 4:16, 23, 25, 32) True to such calculations, 1914 did mark the end of those times and the birth of God's kingdom in heaven with Christ Jesus as king. Just think of it! Jehovah granted his people that knowledge nearly four decades before those times expired."
*** w 198412/1 pp. 13-14 Happy Are Those Found Watching!
20 Russell and his associates quickly understood that Christ’s presence would be invisible. They disassociated themselves from other groups and, in 1879, began publishing spiritual food in Zion’s Watch Tower and Herald of Christ’s Presence. From its first year of publication, this magazine pointed forward, by sound Scriptural reckoning, to the date 1914 as an epoch-making date in Bible chronology. So when Christ’s invisible presence began in 1914, happy were these Christians to have been found watching!
The greatest Man who ever lived . 1991
*** gtchap.132AtGod’sRightHand***
A careful study of Bible prophecies, including Jesus’ own prophecy regarding the last days, reveals that “the Lord’s day” began in the history-making year 1914, yes, within this generation! So it was in 1914 that Jesus returned invisibly, without public fanfare and with only his faithful servants being aware of his return. In that year Jehovah gave Jesus the command to go subduing in the midst of his enemies.
The March 22, 1993 issue of Awake! said on page 10:
"If you are inclined to dismiss all of this as pie in the sky, too good to be true, pause again and reflect. In addition to the features of the composite sign of Christ Jesus' presence, there is Bible chronology that pointed to 1914 as the beginning of his presence. Jehovah's Witnesses published the date 1914 as a significant year in the development of Jehovah's Kingdom rule of the earth, doing so in the Watch Tower magazine of July 1879. Many historians and observers of world affairs have noted that the year 1914 ushered in an entirely different and significant period in human history, as the accompanying box indicates."
Then in the Watchtower March 1 2004 page 14 paragraph 6
The ten virgins remind us of anointed Christians before 1914. They had calculated that the bridegroom, Jesus Christ, was about to make an appearance . Hence, they “went out” to meet him, boldly preaching that “the appointed times of the nations” would end in 1914. Luke 21:24.”
i enjoy making the watchtower covers as i see others do as well,.
are we at risk of potential legal action for breaching copyright laws?.
should we change the titles a bit to be safe?.
I don't think they would want any publicity for this website.
y
"dollar auction' theory - it goes like this.... .
the setup involves an auctioneer who volunteers to auction off a dollar bill with the following rule: the dollar goes to the highest bidder, who pays the amount he bids.
the second-highest bidder also must pay the highest amount that he bid, but gets nothing in return.. .
Another explanation is that:
Over the years we gather around us a support system, friends and relatives we can lean on for support when things go wrong.
As witnesses their support system is in the Watchtower fold. They are told not to make friends "in the world".
As we get older it is difficult to get that support group again from scratch. We just dont have the energy to go out and join clubs or whatever is required to cultivate people with similar interests.
So we are feeling old and vulnerable and more than ever need the only support we are ever likely to have.
This is the case with some of my older friends and relatives.
y
baby girl, 6 lbs, 14 oz, 19-3/4in, looks like me they say.... still in awe... there were some complications, but mom and baby are doing good.
baby's down the hall in nicu and it still doesn't feel real.. .
Congratulations and celebrations!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Speaking as a daughter................................. make sure she knows you love her.
She wont just "know it" because you do.
Tell her! Especially when she's an obnoxious teen, as she will be. Because we all were.
y