Posts by yesidid

18

Someone isn't happy with me

by dedpoet in

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friends

i just received this email from a jw.

he isn't the first person to send me his views on my website, i've had plenty of correspondence lately, but at least this one isn't full of abusive language, which many of them have been.

those ones tend to get deleted, though i have sent a few, with the email addresses included, to wts headquarters.

yesidid

Just because you can't or won't live up to Jehovah's righteous standards doesn't give you license to attack those that can.

For Christians the remark above is very telling.

The Christian belief is that we are all sinners who cannot live up to Jehovah’s

righteous standards and that’s where Christ’s ransom comes in.

It is obvious from the writer’s comments that JW’s believe they can earn their salvation by doing

or abstaining from certain things.

Seeing they don’t need Christ it’s not surprising He gets so little attention.

yesidid

43

OK girls, tell me what I did wrong.

by Abandoned in

here's the situation.

there's this girl at work who i've been kidding around with for a couple months.

we laugh and joke and i thought we were pretty good friends.

yesidid

Why not ask your wife, she both knows you and how women think.

15

Catalogue of WBTS actual lies; please help!!!!

by yesidid in

jw
friends

a link given by someone on the board .

(whom i cant find but would like to thank) .

opened an article by leonard r. miller .

yesidid

A link given by someone on the board

(whom I can’t find but would like to thank)

opened an article by Leonard R. Miller

about Watchtower lies.

http://users.oeccwildblue.com/millerlr/DearMother.pdf

In one very powerful line he said:

There are honest mistakes – but never honest lies.

Mr. Miller used the example of the cover-up after the1925

fiasco. Another example would be their continuing lie that

they were expecting Jesus to return in 1914, when we know,

that from 1879 to at least 1929 they were teaching that

Jesus had already returned in 1874.

I have documented 16 instances in the past sixty years

where they have repeated that lie. So it's not an honest

one-off mistake, it is a deliberate lie.

What I would like to do is catalogue as many of their

deliberate lies as possible. (I may need them for family).

Would you please help me? Can you think of other

instances where they have deliberately lied.

We would need quotes from their literature to prove our points.

When completed, I will collate them and put them in a single

post for us all to use.

Thank you for reading this and for contributing if you can.

yesidid

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first it was her mum in hospital, then it was me, just for a night, though i've been ordered to rest and given 6 weeks off work, and now linda (fullofdoubtnow) is ill. she has a really bad bout of flu, which started yesterday, and i expect she'll be in bed for a few days.

i just fed her some soup, which is about all she can manage at the moment, and she's gone back to sleep now.

she sends her love to everyone on the board,i expect she will be posting again in a few days, but for now, she's confined to bed..

yesidid

Please give Linda our best. We'll sure miss her.

regards

yesidid

8

excerpt from www.watchtower.org...

by SB in

the official website of the true god.

here is a preview, w/a link to the rest of the information.

very interesting how they explain exactly what propoganda is.... http://www.watchtower.org/library/g/2000/6/22/article_03.htm.

yesidid

** Watchtower August 1, 2001 p. 14, par. 8 ***

First, since "oneness" is to be observed , a mature Christian must be in unity and full harmony

with fellow believersas far as faith and knowledge are concerned. He does not advocate or insist

on personal opinions or harbor private ideas when it comesto Bible understanding.

Rather, he has complete confidence in the truth as it is revealed by Jehovah God

through his Son, Jesus Christ, and "the faithful and discreet slave

." By regularly taking

in the spiritual food provided "at the proper time" — through Christian publications, meetings, assemblies,

and conventions — we can be sure that we maintain "oneness" with fellow Christians in faith and knowledge. — Matthew 24:45.

13

A Book A Year as a cash flow scheme

by VM44 in

why does the watchtower release at least one new book each year?

this practice started when judge rutherford was running the watchtower.. even back in the 1930's, when the books were being sold for about 25 cents a copy, a tremendous profit was being made just by the sheer numbers of books produced.

each edition of rutherford's books were printed by the millions!

yesidid

They published 119 books in 84 years.

24

Paul's "full gospel" did NOT mention 144,000...

by bebu in

from reflecting on what paul writes in his letters, it is obvious he had never taught anything like the wts doctrines concerning the little flock (144,000) or the slave class, or any other unique jw gospel concept.

yet he was clear that he was preaching the entire gospel everywhere.. i picked out the following verses (you can find more but these are the most obvious) to show that 1) paul said his authority for the gospel he preached was given by god; 2) that he preached the gospel fully; and that he condemned any person or angel who preached a different gospel.

have you ever noticed, then, that though paul clarified the gospel in all of his letters in a variety of ways, the odd doctrines of the jws/wts were never once mentioned by paul?

yesidid

Anyway... tell me what you think.

Well Bebu, I think you think very good thoughts.

The point is that if the 144,000 teaching was so important, so essential that

one can now be disfelllowshipped for not accepting it, Jesus would have made

sure Paul knew about it. After all, it was Paul and his converts who took Jesus to

the world.

The fact that Jesus led Paul to believe that he had been given all the knowledge

required for Christians to be saved shows the 144,000 teaching is irrevelant.

That isn't even touching on the laughability of the WT's interperation of Reverlation.

You make an excellent point Bebu, oneI had never thought of.

Thank you,

yesidid

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Was the Atomic Bombing of Japan Really Necessarry?

by frankiespeakin in

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friends

link and clip:.

http://www.doug-long.com/hiroshim.htm.

hiroshima:was it necessary?part 1 of 2. by doug long.

yesidid

This question is insulting, to say the least. What a B.S. question.

I absolutely agree.

It is insulting to the innocent Japanese victims, who are still paying, to the third generation.

21

Great crowd in the first century ?

by ninja in

are there any watchtower references to there being any members of the great crowd in the first century?...or were they all of the "144000" until 1935?

...

yesidid

w51 9/1 p. 516 Hated for His Name *** It is said that in the year 95 alone some 40,000 suffered martyrdom ................. Diocletian assumed the crown A.D. 284. At first he seemed friendly to the Christians, but in the year 303 he gave in to persuasion and opened the tenth persecution, probably the most ferocious of all. Suffocation by smoke, forcible drinking of melted lead, mass drownings and burnings, breaking on the rack of men and women alike ran the empire with blood. In a single month 17,000 were slain . In the province of Egypt alone, 144,000 such professed Christians died by violence in the course of this persecution, in addition to another 700,000 who died as a result of fatigues encountered in banishment or under enforced public works.

It is probably a Dorothy Dix but this is their pathetic reply:

***w521/15p.62QuestionsFromReaders***

Questions From Readers

According to the article " Hated for hisName" in the September 1, Watchtower, hundreds of thousands of Christians died in the "ten

persecutions" starting in Nero's time, 144,000 dying in Egypt alone during one of the persecutions. How can this be harmonized with the

Scriptural limitation of 144,000 placed on the number being in Christ's body, and which position was the only one open to Christians during

those centuries?—J.A.,DominicanRepublic.

"The article did not class with any finality the individuals that died during these persecutions,

but spoke of the results in a general way. Note that a key qualification was made in the case

referred to in the question: "In the province of Egypt alone, 144,000 such professed

Christians died by violence in the course of this persecution, in addition to another 700,000

who died as a result of fatigues encountered in banishment or under enforced public works.

" The victims are identified as "professed Christians", not Christians in fact. Many of those

persons might have been caught in the wave of persecution, but may never have actually

preached the truth or followed in Jesus’ footsteps, being only professed Christians. They

knew the world they lived in was rotten and they were listening to the message of the

Christians and willing to die for it even though not in line for the high calling in Christ Jesus.

Many professed Christians today might be willing to die for their faith, but still not be

Jesus’ footstep followers and meeting the Scriptural requirements for such."

Yesidid

5

607 website - part 6

by Jeffro in

part 6 in the series.

part 1:http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/118445/2082380/post.ashx#2082380.

part 2:http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/12/118507/2083398/post.ashx#2083398.

yesidid

You've done a masterful job of going through that garbage and refuting the WBTS/3w's distortions, lies and convaluted reasonings.

Thanks mate

yesidid