SoL, you ARE disfellowshiped. Only the announcement is being held in abeyance by the appeal committee. If the appeal committee does not agree with the original committee's decision to disfellowship you tonight, the appeal committee may schedule yet another meeting to keep trying to intimidate you into admitting to something concrete. This will be your third meeting with appeal committee. The appeal committee is deliberately dragging this out to call your bluff. Appeal committees are trained to do this. There is a chance that the discipline may be reduced to public reproof. But since you have been disfellowshiped once before, I doubt it.
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Survey and question for those that follow my JC hearing tapes
by SickofLies inmy last appeal hearing is tonight.
i plan on continuing the good christian with a few questions act.
after they reach their decision whatever it is i will pull out my camera and tell them that this whole procedure has been recorded.. 1. do you think i will get df'ed tonight?
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JW to use bullhorns at doors
by Smiles injehovah's witnesses to use bullhorns on people that don't answer their doors.
monday april 24, 2006 .
by david tolsey .
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JEHOVAH'S WITNESSES TO USE BULLHORNS ON PEOPLE THAT DON'T ANSWER THEIR DOORS Monday April 24, 2006
By DAVID TOLSEY
SPRINGFIELD, Mo. -- Weary from pounding the pavement for hours a day only to have homeowners shut the door in their faces or not answer it all, Jehovah's Witnesses will start toting bullhorns to ensure their message is heard. Kingdom Halls across the U.S. rejoiced at the directive issued by leading Witness elders last week.
"We look at the bullhorns as an emergency tool needed to spread the word of the Lord," said 18-year-old Ronald Plimpton. "Maybe the residents didn't hear the door knock because they were in the bathroom or working in the basement."
Several sociologists fear these extreme actions by the Jehovah's Witnesses may prompt other institutions and groups to resort to similar methods. "We may see the Britannica salesman or Avon lady utilizing a handheld microphone in the near future," says Dr. Clarence Simolt.
"I don't plan to use them," said door-to-door salesman Mickey Jones. "When you have something people want, there's no need for noise.
Jones sells earplugs.
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Question about the Anointed
by Zico ini have just joined this site after having been visiting as a guest for a few months.
i am searching for answers so please be patient with me.
a friend of mine in the congregation has directed me to this site as he has been having doubts about the organization, though he said he never posts on it.
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He only became an anointed one a few years ago when an older anointed one in a nearby Congregation became unfaithful.
Zico, the WT teaches that if an annoited JW were to become unfaithful in some way and even be disfellowshiped, they may not lose their heavenly calling, because if repentant, they can be forgiven and reinstated into the JW congregation and still be anointed. That information can be found in the 1976 Watchtower, page 158.
In what way was this older anointed person in a nearby congregation "unfaithful"?
Were you that unfaithful anointed person?
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Has anyone seen this before?
by SickofLies in.
http://www.607challenge.org/
for 250,000 pound i might just try and come up with a theory to prove it!
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The WT will tell you that they can prove 607, especially if there is a reward for proving 607. Someone should send a copy of that website to the WT writing staff.
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Best Committee Meeting Yet - They threatened to call the police on me!
by SickofLies inyeee haaa!
i'm an outlaw now!
the elders warned me that if any i talk about anything said in the judicial committee or post any pictures i've taken, i'm in big trouble and i don't want these people as enimies!
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The elder sounds like he is trying to be a lawyer himself.
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Best Committee Meeting Yet - They threatened to call the police on me!
by SickofLies inyeee haaa!
i'm an outlaw now!
the elders warned me that if any i talk about anything said in the judicial committee or post any pictures i've taken, i'm in big trouble and i don't want these people as enimies!
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If those elders do not want their identity announced to the world, maybe they should not publicly annouce SoL's name from the platform.
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Another Committee Meeting?
by SickofLies inthe elders love me!.
they want to meet with me again, tonight at 8:00pm, no explaination as to why, just that they need to ask me some more questions.they must miss me by now its been almost a week since my last committee meeting with them.
i've picked up some interesting bits of information from listening to the audio files and i feel i might know the reason they want to meet with me.
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There is no Fifth Amendment right with WT judicial committees. If you choose not to answer their questions, it can be considered the same as deliberate failure to appear and a flagrant disregard for theocratic order. The appeal committee will then approve the public announcement of the original committee's decision to disfellowship you.
The elders have already informed you that there is no need for witnesses at this second meeting with the appeal committee. They will probably not allow your legal representation into the room. So you will either meet with the elders alone or not meet with them. If you choose not meet with them, that is a deliberate failure to appear. If you choose to meet with them, be prepared for the questions you may not want to answer.
The WT has the judicial committee arrangement designed to their advantage. Unless the elders make a serious error in judgment, the accused will usually lose.
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Another Committee Meeting?
by SickofLies inthe elders love me!.
they want to meet with me again, tonight at 8:00pm, no explaination as to why, just that they need to ask me some more questions.they must miss me by now its been almost a week since my last committee meeting with them.
i've picked up some interesting bits of information from listening to the audio files and i feel i might know the reason they want to meet with me.
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In the appeal committee recording the elders told you that they were holding the matter in "abeyance" which means that they are waiting for something specific, either more evidence or direction from the C.O. or WT to seal your fate. If you were winking and blowing kisses at the elders of your original judicial committee while they sat there listening to your appeal hearing, then you are probably correct in assuming that the original committee elders are pushing hard for disfellowshiping. I doubt the elders know about your recording the committee hearings and posting on information online, unless some prick has recently turned you in like they did to Richie. When you meet with the appeal committee again, they are probably going to avoid doctrinal questions and your mental health issues and move onto what your attitude is towards the WT organization asking such questions as this:
"Do you believe God is using Jehovah's Witnesses as his only spirit-directed organization on earth?"
"Do you identify yourself as one of Jehovah's Witnesses in association with the spirit-directed faithful and discreet slave class represented by the Watch Tower Bible and Tract Society?"
If you argue with those questions the appeal committee will agree with the original judicial committee and disfellowship you for apostasy, regardless of your mental health issues or desire to ask questions and learn.
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UPDATE
by RichieRich inyesterday afternoon, i recieved 2 text messages from an anonymous source that read :.
(person that turned you in) i turned you into your brothers for your own good.
gal ?:?
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Richie, was it a judicial committee? Did they give you any specific counsel? And did the elders tell you that they will no longer need any further meetings with you?
If that was everything, then it was easy compared to what many here have experienced with JW elders.
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Sickoflies audio from JC and Appeal meetings (reliable, fast downloads)
by Jourles inhere are the audio files that sickoflies made.
these work on windows media player and are significantly smaller than the original .wav formats.jc meeting (7.4mb)conclusion of jc meeting (1.4mb).
part 1 of appeal hearing (3.2mb)part 2 of appeal hearing (5.8mb)conclusion of appeal hearing (1.3mb)
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SoL,
I posted a question for you in the JWD Private Discussion group. It is about something said during your appeal hearing.