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  UNITED NATIONS

  by JohnTron7 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i've been posting this for a few years now but, my post get pulled.

  so i will try again so that others will read and understand the validity of my statements.

  while for years watch tower have declared their thoughts of world changing events leading to the un as the catalyst for turning on religion recently calling russia the final king of the north which has breen debated for decades.

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  The growing threat to Christianity will come swiftly by laws established by Gay senators

  A bigger threat to WT will come swiftly by closeted gay WT elites.
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  Elders confidential September

  by Mikejw in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  for elders.

  announcements and reminders.

  september 2022.

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  2. Rating Convention Speakers

  The trifecta assigned to perform this "review" has always been an absurd protocol...

  Two of the three reviews will often give high marks to the other one, and vice versa.

  When 1 of the 3 is being reviewed, he must step out of the room while the other two grade him. When he reenters the room he can freely look at the remarks & grade given to his speaking ability.

  That creates an environment where the three reviewers become a good ol' boy team which often exchange inflated high marks among themselves and for their prefered pals... deliberately and repeatedly downgrading legitimately skilled speakers.

  The grades are then forwarded to the circuit overseer who, in most cases, accepts the gradings without a question, then uses those gradings to distribute speaking assignments at the assembly/convention level.

  This is one reason why you will see many of the same incumbent speakers at every convention/assembly... because of this flawed grading process.

  (and the grading scale is literally: A+, A, A-, B+, B, B-, C+, C, C-, etc.)

  Holy spirit at work

  Atlantis or another may have archived a scanned copy of the ridiculous grading form (blank)
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  Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.

  in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.

  yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.

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  True, but religious mammonism is still greed, regardless of net worth.

  LDS enjoys greater monetary prosperity than WT because LDS is:

  • Pro university acedemics/athletics (BYU & numerous other edu affiliations)
  • Pro commerce
  • Pro childbearing
  • Pro tithing (@ 10% ?)

  WT discourages all of the above, and is therefore:

  • less wealthy
  • less likeable
  • less intelligent
  • less membership

  Regardless, both LDS & WT are contemptibly wacky worship systems.

  CEO Jesus should be ashamed of the entire lot.
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  Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.

  in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.

  yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.

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  If that is true, LDS corporate will simply payroll more people into membership.

  Remember, LDS also controls BYU...

  WT would dry up long before LDS or BYU sink.
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  Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.

  in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.

  yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.

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  LDS is a massive multinational religion (and financial stockholder)

  Mormons "baptise the dead", thereby further bumping their numbers.

  That is why Mormons hoard genealogy records, using the names and birth dates to symbolically "baptise the dead" posthumously.

  Very likely they have baptised some of your deceased kinsfolk; if so, Mormons will "undue" a said baptism only by official request of a surviving relative.

  Wacky stuff.
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  Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.

  in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.

  yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.

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  If JWs educated their new learners about the full extent of baptismal related expectations and ramifications, how many would promptly discontinue exploration of WT/JW... Many to most would frightened away.

  Must maintain attractive appearances, and gaslighting.
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  Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

  know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

  - 2 cor.

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  Have you ever summoned down Jesus to be present here at this gathering forum?
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  Does Jesus Live Inside JW's ?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  examine yourselves, whether ye be in the faith; prove your own selves.

  know ye not your own selves, how that jesus christ is in you, except ye be reprobates?

  - 2 cor.

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  No.
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  1985 and baptism...I wish I had read this before today

  by enoughisenough in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i am posting a link as to being legally bound to jw rules at time of baptism.

  i only did a quick skim, but what i gathered is interesting, and what it says about 1985 may be of use to some hoping to just fade and not be bothered.

  in 1985, the questions were changed at baptism for legal purposes so they could have causation to defend themselves should you decide to sue for whatever reason.

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  Because WT cannot materially prove the claim of "spirit directed organisation"

  Plus, the GB want to exclusively control all the 'directing', and that proof cannot be avoided.
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  Do you think the JW's ever will or could go the Mormon route?

  by BettyHumpter in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  what i mean is the mormon's have their own set of wacky beliefs and are a pretty insular group, engage in a form of door to door ministry but don't discourage higher education.

  in fact, the handful of mormons i went to school with were pushed to excel academically and go to college.

  yeah there are ex mormons but for a great many, going to university doesn't turn them into atheists.

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  Why would JWs want to go the Mormon route. They already have a bigger more engaged following.

  False.

  Mormon population as of 2021 reported at near 17,000,000.

  JWs 8 mil.

  Fact check.

  "more engaged following" is subjective and unfalsifiable.