Every day I'm on here I recieve a new mental Gem. I have been going to meetings for 40 years and never knew this book existed. I think to have a private meeting with a dying man for the specific reason of getting his money just goes to a new low. I'm hopeing there were no worldly relatives their i would hate to think what would be going through their minds.
joe134cd
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"Charitable Giving" Brochure
by HintOfLime incan someone provide me with some information on the names and nature of a brochure by the wt with a name something along the lines of "charitable giving"?
upon learning that a close jw relative was diagnosed with cancer, and possibly on their deathbed, the "friendly neighborhood jw hopital group" showed up, had a lengthy closed-door discussion with him one-on-one (wife couldn't be present), and left a brocure and dvd in the room with a title along the lines of "charitable giving" - i'm sorry, i didn't read the full name before it disappeared.
the 'brothers' (*cough* moneyhounders in sheeps clothing *cough*) had already left this "information" and had "discussions" with him before even the family learned of the situation and had arrived.. am i right in thinking this is a "you're soon-to-be-widow doesn't really need that life insurance money" brochure?
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NEW UK BETHEL - START SAVING
by St George of England ina letter was read tonight at the meeting with this information.. apparently, three years ago the gb authorised the uk bethel to consolidate all the uk resources.
so far over 300 sites have been looked at but more information will be forthcoming.. in the meantime we can work to this end by saving so that we can contribute to the new facility.. also skilled and unskilled trades people can register for volunteer work, collect an application form from the secretary.. to me it seems like they are going to move out of london (mill hill, bittacy hill etc), get a cheaper area, pay for the new facility with donations and free labour.
they will then sell all the high value property and probably send the money to the us.
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joe134cd
The thing that really just blows me away is that Joe Publisher has just got no clue of what is going on. ABSOLUTLY NO IDEA!!!! This was really driven home to me when I queried an elder about the hall been signed over after a refurb. His reply was "he thought it had but he didnt like to get involved in these matters." I just thought you total &u$k wit how could you not have realised what you had done or the implications of it. The guy was just totally in the dark. Its almost like the society has got people so controlled that they can do what ever they like unchallenged. But the thing that really frustrates me is that I just can't tell anyone in the congregation because if I did I wold get kicked out. Grrr
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jaydub forged my signature on govt. docs
by truthhurts13 inso i recently learned that my ex-wife (who is still an active jaydub) forged my signature on govt.
documents in order to receive my share of small settlement i was going to get.
i haven't even seen her in about 6 years.
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joe134cd
I can't help but think their is a bit more tothe story than you are letting on.
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THE DC Hotel List
by tresdecu inso tonight finally had to make a decision about the dc.
we missed saturday and sunday of the one we were assigned to.
i was going to convieniently try to forget (been working most saturdays last few months) but she persisted tonight.
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joe134cd
It's funny because until I had come to this site I had never heard of such a thing. It hasn't got to this end of the world
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Going to Kingdom Hall for first time
by InChristAlone insince my family is out of town, and i am alone this weekend, i have decided to attend this once to see these things for myself.
have no fear, i have absolutely no interest in joining.
my goal is simply to better understand how to reach those who are on the inside, and i feel i could better do that by observing it.
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joe134cd
Honestly I wouldn't go. But up to you
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How many JWs are genuinely in "good standing"?
by slimboyfat inan interesting question arose from my earlier thread:.
we all know that many jws do stuff that would get them disfellowshipped, but never get caught.
but how many jws do you think there really are who have never kept any disfellowshipping "offense" secret?
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joe134cd
I would say those that get disfellowshiped would be just the tip of the ice burgh. I remember reading a post that was arguing how ineffective DFing was, in that it was only effective for 2 types of people:
(1) the sloppy e.g they didn't have enough wits and got caught.
(2) the honest e.g those who stand by what they have done and willing to take the consequences for their actions. BTW I kind of admire the option 2 people more than option 1.
All those in the middle will never own up.
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hello. pls help. getting married soon. afraid i won't be happy because wtbts said so.
by seasickbumblebee inalshello.
i'm a practicing jw.
finally decided to create an account to see whether you could all help me.. so i am engaged to this wonderful wonderful man and in three months time we'll be married.
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joe134cd
Yeah I agree don't get married. It seems like you are on 2 different levels, or should I say 3 different levels If you include WT.
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Protest at district convention in Budapest, Hungary
by cedars inhttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihncqunkq94.
whatever your thoughts on the shouting, displaying a simple web address is an extremely effective and non-confrontational way of getting the message across - and in this case it looks like hundreds if not thousands of witnesses saw it.. .
cedars.
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joe134cd
Johnny - are you in Budapest. I loved that city.
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Anyone threaten a lawsuit against elder committee that DF you.
by jam inif you threaten the commmitee with a lawsuit, each of you.
will hear from my lawyer if you df me today.
all you have, every penny.
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joe134cd
You wouldn't have a leg to stand on. The society knows this that's why they carry on uninhibited. I have never heard of anyone who has successfully sued and won over this issue, and that is not for people trying. Good luck.
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The most important day of the year. Sometimes. Sort of.
by Jeffro infor jehovah's witnesses, the "most important day of the year" is supposed to be the 'memorial'.
this 'sacred' event is to be held after sunset on nisan 14. except most of the time, it isn't.. as 'explained' in the watchtower, 1 february 1976, page 73, the "governing body" (not capitalised at the time) takes it upon itself to 'determine' the 'actual' date of nisan 14. they claimed in the article that the 'modern' date for the start of nisan in the hebrew calendar is calculated differently to the ancient calculation.
however, that's not actually the case.. the actual calendation for determining the start of nisan was (since at least the neo-babylonian period) and is based on the metonic cycle - a sequence that repeats every 19 years.. in the metonic cycle, the 3rd, 6th, 8th, 11th, 14th, 17th and 19th years have an extra (thirteenth) month (adar ii, or veadar).
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joe134cd
There has been one thing that has bothered me. Are we to celebrate this date at the exact time that it occurred in Israel or are we to to celebrate it according to the local time zone.