Freddy was certainly a smart man. I remember seeing an unofficial video recording someone had taken of him just before he died. Mentally he was as sharp as a razor, as he went off quoting bible passages, even though his body had wasted away. I was PIMI at the time and was impressed with his mental alertness.
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Unbelievable Freddie Franz Admissions
by Vanderhoven7 inunbelievable admissions.. freddie confesses he fell for his own propaganda.. https://youtu.be/fkjw-r9oitk.
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another reason pandemic benefits org
by Magnum ini've already posted in an earlier thread how the pandemic benefits the org in that it presents it an excuse to go completely electronic and sell all buildings (if that's what it wants).
however, there is another way the pandemic benefits the org; it presents it an excuse for declining numbers.. many of us have wondered just how much of a downturn there's been in jw land in recent years.
we've wondered whether the org was playing with the numbers to make the situation appear better than it was.
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joe134cd
IWant2Leave - Well if that be true the JW wouldn’t be the only organisation doing it. I not only would suggest that Wt is been honest with its counting methods, but I would also go so far to say, that the preaching work has been so successful that it would make apple computers proud to have a customer base like that.
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Meanwhile over at exjw reddit
by nowwhat? init has no value at all.
it consists of 99% dumb, confused kids asking stupid hypothetical questions.
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joe134cd
Yes I tend to agree with the poster here. It mainly consisting of young kids wanting out, so they can hook up with the BF or go party. I find the conversation here to be of a much higher standard. Also, if I am after deep meaningful replies it will be here that I post first. To be honest I find reddit to be a place of silly ness from kids.
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another reason pandemic benefits org
by Magnum ini've already posted in an earlier thread how the pandemic benefits the org in that it presents it an excuse to go completely electronic and sell all buildings (if that's what it wants).
however, there is another way the pandemic benefits the org; it presents it an excuse for declining numbers.. many of us have wondered just how much of a downturn there's been in jw land in recent years.
we've wondered whether the org was playing with the numbers to make the situation appear better than it was.
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joe134cd
I’ve always argued, by extension of , LDS statistics that WT isn’t playing with numbers. I believe wt numbers to be totally transparent and if anything underestimates membership growth.
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Why Do Intelligent People Still Believe In The Jehovah’s Witness Religion?
by minimus ini understand it’s a cult.
but what makes an intelligent person actually believe they have the “truth” as taught by jehovah’s witnesses??
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joe134cd
I’m my mind it’s not so much of why Intelligent people join the the JWs. It’s why intelligent people join the mormons, or why former JWs switch to the lds. Because that group (LDS) just take crazy to a whole new level. If I had to choose between 607BCE, or Joseph being a prophet of God. I’d be more inclined to take my chances with 607BCE. Lol
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Today's WT Study: "Return to Jehovah" - Lots of Elephants in the Room
by Room 215 intoday's article prods active jws to participate in the effort to reactivate us backsliders.. unfortunately, it fails to prepare the participants to adequately address the real reasons so many have left and want nothing frtherethan to be left alone: the un and child abuse scandals, prophetic failures; dumbed-down, increasingly specious and simplistic verbiage in literature and talks, the cult of personality and unwarranted veneration of those 8 singularly unremarkable members of the gb, etc., etc..
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joe134cd
I can relate to the after care many were given after they left. I kind of puzzles me really, and to this day, I’m baffled as to weather I should take it as a blessing or an insult. I was in the org for 4 decades from birth. Never missed a month of FS or a meeting. After learning TTATT I just walked out the door, and wisely never stated my reasons for doing so. Never had one person bother to follow up where I had gone. Although I really didn’t want to see them as it saved all the drama. I couldn’t help but feel a little disappointed at their lack of concern.
I’ve also got an aged Aunt who lived and breathed the religion. Husband was a elder right up to the day he died. Pioneered for decades, and was at the heart of the cong. She now sits in a rest home largely forgotten. I queried the facility about who visits her and was told that it’s slim pickings.
What I find most puzzling is how they can spend hours, in a very unpleasant situation, knocking on random doors and yet give so little attention to existing membership. I can’t believe how easily it was for me to slip through the net, and in some ways I’m very thankful. I was at a marketing course, a while back, and I remember been told it takes 10 times the effort and money to find a new customer than what it takes to keep an existing one happy and returning. I think WT could learn from this.
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How Many of Jehovah’s Witnesses Are There Worldwide? FAQ Are You A Jehovah's Witness in REALITY
by Longlivetherenegades infrom the faq as captured on the website with this question (how many jehovah's witnesses are there worldwide?
) led to this question of mine who do the organization sees as a jehovah's witness?
the organization answers: .
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Figuring out a relative who is quite high up in wt world
by joe134cd ini was just thinking about a relative who is quite high up in wt world.
she is a university graduated accountant, who i know has worked on various projects for wt around the world.
my question is, with all the goings on in wt world, what must be going through her head.
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joe134cd
I was just thinking about a relative who is quite high up in wt world. She is a university graduated accountant, who I know has worked on various projects for wt around the world.
My question is, with all the goings on in wt world, what must be going through her head. How does she make sense of it. With my relatives, who are just R&F JWs, its very easy to pass it all off as apostate driven lies. However, with the position that she is in, and the knowledge that she would have it becomes a lot harder to explain it like this. She would almost be forced to accept that there are valid reasons for all these sell offs, merges etc.
Although I have never discussed this with her she seems to be pretty unfazed by it all. When she returns to her home country she seems just as Uber as ever. I just don’t get it.
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November WT study article
by Gorbatchov inin one of the study articles from the november 2020 edition, is mentioned (free quotation):.
"don"t get disturbed if your kingdom hall will be sold".
food on the right time, i asume?.
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joe134cd
Slim I think the mags are compiled some months in advance before they are produced
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Another Kingdom Hall Sold (Van Buren, NY)
by Anony Mous inhttps://www.xome.com/commercial-for-sale/7758-maple-road-van-buren-ny-13027-319162381.
i was just looking around, this one i've been involved in renovating with the rbc.
apparently it sold for $500k..
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joe134cd
It’s always heart warming when I hear things like this.