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  ex mormon learning a little about JW

  by curious777 in

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  2. beliefs

  hello friends.

  i am an ex mormon who got a little bit obsessed with cults and how they work, after leaving the church.. recently i have been very interested in learning about the structure of jw because i find it very similar in some ways to how the mormon church is organized, except with different names for everything.. i have some questions:.

  does the love bomb stop the moment you get baptized?

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  Interestingly after I left the JWs. I attended the Mormon church for a couple of weeks, just to settle my curiosity. I found the lds to be like how you described the JWs. I attended in my street clothes. So it was obvious I wasn’t a member and virtually no one come up and said hello. To be fair, however, it was quite a big ward. I’ve done quite a bit of research into the lds. Basically the lds doctrinally wise is more fanciful, and more disprovable e.g book of Abraham and people who lived on the moon that looked like quakers. But the JWs are more harmful and destructive e.g blood transfusions and shunning. That been said if it was a life style choice. I would choose to be lds, and I’m sure many would agree with me here. The lds view on higher education and secular advancement would certainly be making my life easier now.

  Basically the bonnets may be different but the engines, in how they work, are the same. The tactics they employ and methods they use are very similar. When I left the JWs I honestly believed that no one could be more bat shit crazy in their beliefs than the JWs. That was until I discovered Mormonism. Lol

  Are the JWs any more likely to keep their pants up than the Lds , or for that matter the general population. From what I personally saw I doubt it.
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  "Young people ask" book claims 97% youth masturbatory or seen porn...not J.W youth??

  by Witness 007 in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  as a youg man this stunned me when i studied the original "youth" book 97% had done it so i thought soo that's pretty much everyone i guess the 3% were witness youth!

  also "awake" claimed 90% of students had accessed porn at some time.

  everyone is doing it i guess 10% are the witness youth...how dumb was i?.

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  I think to many JW youth leave the religion in the belief that they can go out into secular society that has a more liberal approach. To a point this is correct. However, this freedom comes at a cost, and there are still consequences for our actions e.g procreation and the best care for that life. Sadly, many in the above example soon come back to reality and find themselves in some very sorry states. I even personally knew of one ex jw who become a prostitute.

  That been said I have often wondered, what the incidences of substance abuse, premarital sex, masterbation, domestic violence would be amongst the JWs. If it is higher than secular society then they surly do a good job of hiding it.
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  If you could pick out critical errors to the JWS religion what would it be ?

  by Rocketman123 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  many that have come to this forum have left the jws religion and moved on with their lives but from a outsider's viewpoint what do think makes the jws religion wrong or incorrect as a active christian faith ?.

  somethings come to mind such as its long continuous end times/armageddon soon doctrine which has really been a core doctrine for decades going right back to its beginning .. maybe they should have adopted the stance as other christian based faiths and adhered to jesus's own words when he said " no one knows of the time not even he ".

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  Even when I was PIMI I had come to the conclusion , decades before I left, that Jesus would of died on a cross. Just wish it was the thing that had woken me up.
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  Another Gem of a conversation with my PIMI Dad

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  the following is a conversation i had with my pimi father regarding a news segment on tv dealing with csa.

  joe: that’s terrible the incidences of csa happening in the community.

  dad: yes it is.

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  The following is a conversation I had with my PIMI father regarding a news segment on tv dealing with CSA.

  Joe: That’s terrible the incidences of CSA happening in the community.

  Dad: yes it is.

  Joe: I think there has to be more accountability for how these organisations choose to behave.

  Dad: Yes I agree.

  Joe: I have heard in America that Attorneys, are now not only suing the religious and secular institutions but also their pastors and employees who followed and implemented their advise. It would certainly want to make you think twice about been in a position of responsibility with these groups.

  Dad : Well Satan is in control of this world, and if you play with fire then expect to be burnt.

  Joe: Dad, I couldn’t agree more with what you have said and I hope with all the legal cases it bankrupts them. You are absolutely correct.

  Conversation ends.
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  Money for sell of KHs

  by asp59 in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  has anybody seen a chart or documents abouth money they supposedly spending in africa building halls?

  as there selling millions worth of halls around the world.

  they claim it's for africa.

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  Although the word with the R&F is that the money is been used in Africa. I can’t recall hearing anything officially either on jw. Borg, or in print stating otherwise.
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  Unnoticed 2018 merger in Qubec

  by Corney in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  three years ago, on september 1 - 4, 2018, watch tower society of quebec (la tour de garde, société de bibles et de traités du québec), finalised its merger ("voluntary amlgamation") with "123 incorporated congregations of jehovah's witnesses in quebec," with kingdom halls owned by these incorporated congregations (total book value - ca$114,390,856, or 92 million usd) becoming assets of the society.

  quebec congregations continue to exist as unincorporated associations and registered charities, while wt quebec only "manages, maintains and constructs" khs ("in cooperation with" wt canada and jw congregation support (formerly regional building committee)) and appoints certain elders to officiate marriages in the province.. sources: .

  https://apps.cra-arc.gc.ca/ebci/hacc/srch/pub/dsplybscsrch .

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  Once the Crown Jewels are gone you can’t get them back.
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  Victorian couple who tested positive for Covid and travelled to QLD during lockdown are JWs?

  by Ruby 1976 in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone heard this?

  ive been told multiple ex jws have confirmed it but no one seems to kow their names so im still skeptical..

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  Be interesting to see if the media mentions the religion.
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  What made you walk out on the "Truth"?

  by Overrated in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i had a legal divorce from my ex wife( law of the land).

  i was told not to expect to get remarried because my divorce was not legal to watchtower.. my divorce and situation seem to be a talk of gossip and even a many local needs talks.

  i wanted to take some more schooling to get a better job, there was a local needs talk on higher education and it's dangers.

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  I think the thing that finally made me realise the whole thing was a sham. A work colleague questioned me about the divorce rate in various Christian faiths. Innocent enough question. Unfortunately for watchtower it wasn’t so favourable, as I wasn’t able to find any statistical answers in the literature. With no other options I decided to google it. Up came JWs facts and the rest is history.
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  What Do You Know of JWs Getting Away With Stuff?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i realized that teenagers and young witness adults were getting away with murder per my daughter.

  she told me that all these exemplary young people featured at assemblies and conventions were not real good examples.

  after she got married years ago to a “ worldly “ man, she told me about all the kids who were fornicating and getting drunk and high, including elder’s kids.

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  I knew of a teenager who was show cased as at an assembly as an exemplary publisher. Literally weeks later she got DFed.
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  What Were You or Someone You Knew Counseled For That Was Ridiculous?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  back in the day, tons of witnesses were brought in the “back room “ to be counseled by elders because of their dress and grooming.

  some elders frowned on mustaches or hair that went past a certain point on a male.

  women were regularly harassed because their skirt was too long or too short or had a slit on the side.

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  I was told by my best friend father, who was a self righteous SOB elder. They wouldn’t be going to see Star Wars at the movies because it had the word “War” in it.