Posts by joe134cd

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Levels of dependency both inside and outside of the JWs

by joe134cd in

just been looking at posts over on reddit, with people bragging of attending the memorial under the influence.

ok fair enough i guess.

but it got me thinking.

joe134cd

So are you hear by saying Simon. That secularism can enslave in another sense. Are JWs happier because the society they live in takes a negative approach to drug taking.

Wouldn’t the need for mind altering drugs lessen over time as person realises the freedom that secularism offered. The ability to make decisions for oneself. I guess we could use the example of Adam and Eve, if it is to be believed. Did freedom of thought or the ability to decide for ourselves of weather drug taking was a wise decision or not lead to a better world. We must decide for ourselves

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Levels of dependency both inside and outside of the JWs

by joe134cd in

just been looking at posts over on reddit, with people bragging of attending the memorial under the influence.

ok fair enough i guess.

but it got me thinking.

joe134cd

Disillusioned jw- I refer to myself as a Christian freestyler in the sense that you were an independent thinker. Btw I am catholic by denomination, but my black and white JW thinking is not so defined. One thing that has interested me over the years is those that turn to substance abuse to cope. I guess the irony is that this new freedom in secularism just enslaves them some where else. Interestingly I had a conversation with a young person regarding this. He was afraid that he might be called into a JC when spotted by local JWs smoking cigarets. I told him if he was silly enough to take up smoking, then he’s silly enough to get DFed. He’s reply was F*^ck you. This reply was telling I’m my opinion.

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Levels of dependency both inside and outside of the JWs

by joe134cd in

just been looking at posts over on reddit, with people bragging of attending the memorial under the influence.

ok fair enough i guess.

but it got me thinking.

joe134cd

Simon - there are plenty of JWs afraid to make choices. They are called PIMOs.

My question is? With regards to a PIMO, who is purely involved in the religion for the sake of appearances, but doesn’t live by the tenets of the faith. Where does the susceptibility to alcohol/drug taking come in

(1) As a superficial JW (PIMO)

(2) As a person fully immersed in secularism (POMO)

(3) As the person transitions from PIMO to POMO.

One would assume that when one realises that they were in a cult, and comes into freedom of mind and thought that the need for drugs/ alcohol would become less. Unfortunately I don’t think this is the case.

Could the mandates of been a JW, at least superficially, be seen as a positive thing. My behaviour and views on certain things are a result of my JW upbringing. I’m still much the same person, with regards to the tenets of the faith, just minus the nonsense of JWisim. My health and body has benefited from this.

I agree with “nowwhat” that many on reddit are dumb ass kids. I can’t help but think that many are using the excuse of the levels of conformity in the cult as an excuse for unsavoury, reckless or bad behaviour. From what I’ve read many just transition from one set of problems in the JWs, to another in secular society.

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Levels of dependency both inside and outside of the JWs

by joe134cd in

just been looking at posts over on reddit, with people bragging of attending the memorial under the influence.

ok fair enough i guess.

but it got me thinking.

joe134cd

Just been looking at posts over on reddit, with people bragging of attending the memorial under the influence. Ok fair enough I guess. But it got me thinking. Would substance abuse be higher with in the religion, due to a unhappy situation. It then becomes less prominent as the person adapts to a happier life in secular society. Or does a pot smoking JW, merely just transition into a pot smoker out side the JWs. If he was in a more peaceful state of mind in secular society, wouldn’t it be fair to assume the need for mind altering drugs would be less. Does perhaps a PIMI who has never tried drugs, become more susceptible to drug taking in order to cope with the transition into secular society. Thoughts please.

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Covid is making a comeback. Going back to the Kingdom Hall is becoming more of a Hope, (like Armageddon)

by pistolpete in

if you have been keeping up with the news, many cities are seeing an uptick in covid cases.

mask mandates are being implemented in many cities.. many pimos are relating that their pimi parents and grandparents are scared to go back and are having a hard time following the elder's exhortation to attend the memorial, because it might be the last.. a lot of pimi's are saying; that it doesn't make logical sense for large groups of people to meet in a crowded building passing and touching emblems and wine glasses while covid is still around and vaccines have not prevented the death of many who still got the virus.

the elders keep reminding the sheeple that "we must obey,even if it doesn't make sense.".

joe134cd

This is something I was discussing with my father. About the way the GB handled the covid situation. There was a JW funeral in my local area in which it was done over zoom. I remember complaining about this at the time, as the government had allowed gatherings up to 100 people. Covid, until recently, had been well Managed. I couldn’t figure out why the GB were applying the measures taken in America to the country I live in. The answer I was given was that because the GB care so much about it’s people they aren’t taking no risks, even though I pointed out the risk was minimal.

As I was saying to my father. It seems ironic that a family had to see their loved one off via a computer screen, when there was relatively low risk of Covid. Yet if that same person had died in the last week or two. It wouldn’t be a problem, when there are now 10s of 1000s of infection rates. Where’s the care in that. The reply I was given was that the government said it was now ok. Why do I waste my breath!!!

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What are your favorite foods for takeout/delivery?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?

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joe134cd

Fattening, greasy and sugary

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ARC Redress Scheme

by smiddy3 in

974 results found,this is the number of congregations of jehovah`s witnesses that have signed up to the redress scheme for child abuse victims in australia.. what does that tell us ?.

and that number may not be all ..

joe134cd

To be honest. I live in a country very closely connected with Australia, both geographically and politically. Most PIMI are unaware of this.

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What are your thoughts about Mormons?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?

joe134cd

I become particularly interested in the mormons after I left the JWs. For a never-mo (as I would be classified as) I have a reasonable knowledge in it. Basically if you think the JWs are bat shit crazy, then you need to look into Mormonism. Joe Smith was a total and utter rat bag, who is portrayed as a saint.

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What are your thoughts about Mormons?

by Iamallcool in

jw
friends

any takers?

joe134cd

Mormons are more fanciful in their ideas. JWs more dangerous. With the exception of money, Mormons more tolerant of the nonsense from their leaders bad behaviour.

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Lies, Damn Lies.

by Lost in the fog in

https://www.msn.com/en-us/lifestyle/home-and-garden/jehovahs-witnesses-to-resume-in-person-services-opt-not-to-resume-door-to-door-ministry/ar-aavnxv0 .

so apparently robert hendricks the spin doctor of the wt society has been proudly telling news channels how wonderful the wt org has been during the 2 years of the pandemic, checking in with each and every member to meet their needs on a weekly basis.. except, based on the comments of former jw friends on facebook, it's news to most of them since they are screaming out that they were totally neglected by the elders/ms throughout most of that period.

a couple even said that because of being ignored by the congregation during this time, that they have walked away completely.

joe134cd

I was just thinking the same thing. I physically walked out of the KH a decade ago. In that time I’ve had 2 visits from JWs (mind you one of those visits I felt like I was just a magazine placement) and 4 visits from the LDS. Isn’t it ironic how the world empire of false religion controlled by Satan, takes more care in going after the lost sheep, than Jehovah’s visible organisation. LMFAO.