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  I received Blood...What are the JW's going to do to me?

  by smoky21 in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  i haven't posted on here for years.

  i also don't frequent this forum like i used to.. i have posted my story before, like 8 years ago.

  i have been a baptized witness for the last 30+ years, but have not attended meetings in the last 15 years.

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  joe134cd

  “The less said the better off you’ll be.” Thats my advice, after 10 years, of having to deal with orthodox PIMIs.
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  It's been a long 9 years Lloyd Evans / John Cedars (continued)

  by Simon in

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  uh oh, looks like the mega thread gave up the ghost, so while i investigate / fix it just continue the discussion here .... it's been a long 9 years lloyd evans / john cedars.

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  Tbh Simon, they may have larger numbers on Reddit. But the depth of the posting here is far superior. Other than some under 20 year old who has just woken up, and using it as an excuse for dope smoking, that really about it for reddit. This is always my first port of call if I want something that gets me thinking.
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  Jehovah's Witness' bid to be excluded from abuse inquiry dismissed

  by Tahoe in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  link to article.

  a legal bid by the jehovah's witness church to get out of being part of the royal commission of inquiry into abuse in care has been dismissed by the high court in wellington.. after nearly three years of behind-the-scenes legal wrangling to avoid scrutiny from the inquiry, the church applied for a judicial review in june.. at a hearing, held earlier this month it argued it was beyond the inquiry's scope because it did not operate institutions that cared for children or vulnerable people and the inquiry had uncovered no evidence of abuse in that context.. lawyers representing the inquiry argued that jehovah's witness elders - equivalent to ministers or pastors - exercised a level of control over the congregation that allowed them access to children.. the inquiry informed abuse survivors who gave evidence to the inquiry in relation to the jehovah's witnesses of the news this afternoon.. "we have received advice from the high court that none of the causes of action brought by the jehovah's witnesses has succeeded and the application for judicial review has been dismissed.

  the judge's reasons are not yet available, but are expected in the near future," the email to survivors, seen by rnz, said.. the church was the only faith-based institution in the country to legally challenge its involvement in the inquiry, although it had attempted to challenge its status in other countries where similar inquiries have also been carried out.. the inquiry said, in a statement, that the dismissal "means the royal commission can continue to investigate the jehovah's witnesses, and all other faiths, in accordance with the pastoral care approach we have been applying since 2019".. "reasons for the high court's judgment are not yet available but are expected in the near future.

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  It will be interesting to see how this develops. Has a date been set for when they will appear in court.
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  How frequent is this among Jehovah's Witnesses

  by vienne in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my grandmother, an immigrant from austria, was.

  two of my aunts, their husbands, both elders, various cousins and two of my sisters are witnesses.

  so is my grand uncle.

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  joe134cd

  I had a very similar thing happen to a great Aunt of mine. Was left to rot in a rest home, for the last few months of her life, after a stroke.
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  Has anybody ever heard of this in their local area

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i heard of a jw wedding that:.

  (a)wasn’t done in a kh, and was performed by an elder.

  (b)the ceremony was done on a sunday.. i find this surprising for 2 reasons.

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  joe134cd

  I heard of a JW wedding that:

  (A)wasn’t done in a KH, and was performed by an Elder.

  (B)The ceremony was done on a Sunday.

  I find this surprising for 2 reasons.

  I remember some years back as a PIMI when a friend of mine was getting married. The local elders refused to do it, because it wasn’t a KH venue. As I had it explained to me Jehovah’s spirit couldn’t bless a marriage if it wasn’t in a KH. In the end he caved to the pressure and took the KH option. Mainly because he couldn’t get a marriage celebrant to to do it. To be fair I have heard of marriages been performed in a secular venue.

  (2) what really surprised me., Was the service been done on a Sunday. Wouldn’t this be interfering with spiritual activities. The brides father was an elder himself. I wonder if this would have flown a few years back.
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | December 2023 ...Are you marriage material?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | december 2023. study article 52. young sisters—become mature christian women.

  18 you may choose to get married.

  the qualities and skills that we have discussed will help you to become a capable wife.

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  Joey jo jo - now hours don’t count.
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  The Watchtower—Study Edition | December 2023 ...Are you marriage material?

  by RULES & REGULATIONS in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  the watchtower—study edition | december 2023. study article 52. young sisters—become mature christian women.

  18 you may choose to get married.

  the qualities and skills that we have discussed will help you to become a capable wife.

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  Interestingly I just attended an engagement party of an ultra orthodox, JW, relative of mine. I couldn’t help but think the same thing. Here were my observations:

  - His fleshly sister. Married for less than 2 years was siting on the opposite side to her husband, the whole evening. In subsequent conversations with the parents it wouldn’t surprise me if there were problems. Tbh other than JWism that’s all they really have in common. I think if it hadn’t been for the religion, probably would have never gotten together. Would of had sex, and the relationship would of died in the natural course of things

  She was nearly 20, and he was early 20s. It would be unfair of me to judge someone on their appearance as the first time I saw the guy was on the wedding day. My initial impression was of a guy who looked like a young boy. I remember thinking I hope he doesn’t act the same way he looks.

  - at the engagement I heard of numerous weddings and engagements that had been happening in the local JW area. I’d assume all late teens, early 20. I couldn’t help but think, how many will end up in divorce in a few years time.

  Both my relatives, the one engaged, and the one presently married. We’re not even 22, and married the first person they dated. I’m just so glad I am out of all that nonsense.
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  How Much of Russell and Rutherford is Left?

  by NotFormer in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  russell is kind of acknowledged as the founder, but rutherford is the one who really made the wt what it is, or at least laid the foundations for what it came to be, today.

  how much would someone from that era recognise in the wt today?

  what are the big changes that they would see?.

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  Russel founded it. Rutherford formed it, to what it would become, and not for the better. Nathan took it to the world. But I can’t help but think that Freddie may of been pulling the strings for a very long time.
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  New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.

  "by bill hickman of rnz.

  the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .

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  Just wondering did anybody get the opportunity to attend the court hearing in Wellington, on the 10th of October.
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  New Zealand - JWs head to court on Abuse in Care Inquiry - RNZ news story

  by EasyPrompt in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/jehovahs-witnesses-head-to-court-on-abuse-in-care-inquiry-victims-feel-a-kick-in-the-guts/hwjsnshi5vfv7ghjztr63goseu/.

  "by bill hickman of rnz.

  the new zealand branch of the jehovah’s witnesses is going to court in an attempt to have the church made exempt from the abuse in care inquiry today.. in the high court at wellington, lawyers for the church are seeking a declaration that the church is not responsible for the care of children or vulnerable people in new zealand.. abuse survivor advocate and former church elder shayne mechen said the church was trying to use a technicality to side-step its inclusion in the inquiry.. .

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  I really do hope this makes it to prime time news on television.