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  want to show support to a one time member

  by enoughisenough in

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  i put this under beliefs, doctrine, practices but it could well fit under coverups, i think.

  anyway fyi and if you are interested, a one time member here , easyprompt now has a youtube channel :easyprompt_fragrantaddendum exposing wt...i have watched a couple of them, and they are well put together..

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  As I side point. I’d like to say that I’ve found the you tube channel “the blue envelop”, to be nothing but first class. Thoroughly well researched and put together. He’s by far the best ex jw YouTuber out there. NB// he was the whistle blower on Tony Morris were abouts.
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  Were JW Celebrities Ever An Asset To The Organisation?

  by NotFormer in

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  just wondering if the rich celebrities that occasionally were aligned with the wt gave enough to the 'tower to be a worthwhile presence within the organisation?.

  my gut instinct is: "no".

  i imagine that the jackson family gave a fair bit, but it was obviously never enough to buy michael the right to be held as being in good standing.

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  I think they can be glad they gave MJ the flick when they did. Imagine the drama they would have now with what has transpired anbout him. Combine this with Wt mismanagement of child abuse as well.
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  The Next Big Thing In WT World

  by NotFormer in

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  2. beliefs

  things got a bit lively after the agm leaks in october.

  there was a lot of discussion going on on this board for a few months.

  now that all the leaks have been more or less confirmed as policy, and we've had lively discussions at length concerning the changes, things seem to have slowed down here.. a few suggestions have been raised as to what might be the next changes, such as women being allowed to wear slacks (in the usa, anyway), decoupling from 1914 as an anchoring date and others.. so, what changes do you think will be announced this year?.

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  I think women in slacks. Women in positions. 1914 needs to be addressed sooner rather than later.
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  Christians Encouraged to Read 'Pagan' Works

  by peacefulpete in

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  clement of alexandria.

  the stromata, or miscellanies.

  book vi.

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  The apostle Paul was also well versed in the Greek culture. I guess it shows his versatility in his methods of preaching. In Acts 17:28 he quotes the Greek poets of the time. The apostle Paul was an intellectual, and was certainly not a man confined to the walls of Jerusalem. But most of all he was a man of God.

  pioneerschmioneer - Luke was the only Bible writer he was not a Jew. Tradition has it that he was executed in Greece been hung from an olive tree. This may be indicative that he may of been Greek. He also wrote the book of Acts. So basically 20% of the New Testament was authored by a gentile; none Jew.
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  Conscription FEARS to END? Jehovah's Witnesses in EUROPE?

  by raymond frantz in

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  https://www.jwupdates.com/post/conscription-fears-across-europe-could-end-jehovah-s-witnesses.

  as the clouds of war are gathering fast over the european continent many countries including britain are contemplating a return to conscription and some form of mandatory military service.

  considering the fact that the watchtower fought long and hard especially in europe for the right of its believers to abstain from military service it is very interesting to see how this new development will affect the watchtower across europe.

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  I live in the 3rd fattest country on the planet. I’d hate to think what would happen if they implemented that here. A good number can hardly walk to the fridge, net alone fight a war. WTF.
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  Fading is better then completely leaving...comments?

  by Witness 007 in

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  i got the internet in my house and realised it's all lies....but as a pioneer/ministerial servant i chose to fade.

  see i had family and friends who were fully strict witnesses.

  so i played the poor lost soul brother who is not sure what's happening.

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  To be fair, I’m a fader purely because it just makes caring for my parent more easy with less hassles. Recently I had a close JW relative die, where I was left to arrange the funeral. This was done effectively with little hassle. Credit to the congregation as the service and refreshments were all done by them. Apart from the infomercial service, it was lovely seeing this relatives long time friends turn up. This would have been far more problematic if I was DFed. I still lead a relatively secular lifestyle but have found a compromise. Christmas and birthdays are something I could go with out. They are costly and time consuming. I don’t mind attending them, but really can’t be bothered with my own. I actually see not celebrating Christmas / birthdays as a bonus of been a JW. I’m probably in the minority here though.
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  Hotels for convention

  by ElderBerry in

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  a department in bethel wants to try to make money from regional conventions by asking local hotels if they will give a special rate and a coupon code to give to jws.. .

  they should just keep it simple and not be greedy for dishonest gain.. .

  this year some convention sites the hotels said no thank you i think the jws are going to book with us anyway.

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  Notformer - Wt certainly doesn’t have the grip it used to. I recently heard of a one day assembly that was held on a long weekend. My PIMI relative was complaining about the timing and the low attendance of 500. The assembly hall is built for 2000, and when I was going attendance was around 1000+. I remember a similar occasion many decades ago, when an assembly was held between Christmas and new years. It was a packed stadium in the middle of the sun.
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  Is there “new light” on 1914?

  by wallsofjericho in

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  i’m hearing paraphrasing like “we just don’t know” .

  is this regarding 1914?

  or micheal the arch angel?.

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  Be interesting to see with regard to that assembly part. Are they testing the water to see the reaction be, or did the speaker go rogue on them. This could be big.
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  Where is Tony?

  by Athanasius in

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  2. friends

  on february 22, 2023, anthony morris iii was officially removed from the governing body of jehovah's witnesses.

  a few months later it was revealed that the watchtower bought him a house in lumberton, north carolina.. however, and correct me if i am wrong, since leaving the gb nobody has reported seeing tony attending jw meetings or participating in field service.

  in fact nobody has reported seeing him anywhere, not even at a local liquor store.

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  I’m sure if he could be moved sideways they would have. The bottom line was his drinking and mouth were just out of control. He was a liability and removal was the only option. If he had stayed I’m sure he would have been DFed. An even worse look.
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  Geoffrey Jackson goatiegate Part 2

  by Tahoe in

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  from ske graduation this past weekend.

  (sent from a pimi).

  from ske on zoom: .

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  I do feel these changes have been the result of ToMo getting the chop. He was what was holding up change.