Posts by joe134cd

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Cost of new Kingdom Halls?

by Blttex in

i have been told that the cost to build a new kingdom hall is $500k +.

i have a background in commercial construction and this seems pretty high to me, considering all the free labor.

that is just the cost of the building, excluding the lot price.

joe134cd

It just goes to show when you think you have heard everything, someone highlights another gem to you. I had no idea this was going on.

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on another thread, i read that a few adherents may be traveling (cough-cough) to other cities and wouldn't be able to make field service on christmas day.. what is the likelihood that going out on christmas will be encouraged at the weekend services at the khs?

...or do most halls stay neutral on this?

given what i've read on this forum, i have the impression that disrespecting a day of other's celebration wouldn't be discouraged which annoys the heck out of me..

joe134cd

Even when I was in I was quite vocal about this.I just thought it was plain rude, and that giving the the community 1 day a year off to have with their families, with out talking to a stranger on their door step was not a big ask. Needless to say the reply I got to that was the advantages because you always got people at home. OMG I just gave up in the end.

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Ray Franz

by thedog1 in

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am reading coc at the moment, about half way through.

just finished reading some of the details of what happened in malawi and mexico years ago.

which reminded me that in the early 80's a very well known elder in the country i was then living in went to new york as he had discovered all the discrepencies between what had happened in malawi and in mexico and wanted to know what the gb had to say about it.

joe134cd

That is the thing I ask myself every day is "how I could of been so totally unaware."

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JWDEFENSE youtube channel

by wannaexit in

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wondering what to make of this youtube channel.

looks like it could be put out by wachtower.

http://www.youtube.com/channel/ucn6uoc8oxbgrhqqazu6unsq/videos.

joe134cd

I don't really get it. They are all about letting the light shine and then when it dose they are throwing copy right at it. Huh???

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Has anybody meet anyone on here who they knew as a JW. Experiences please

by joe134cd in

i'm just curious but has anybody meet some one on jehovahwitness-net who they knew in their jw lives.

just want to hear experiences.

please include the indicators that led up to you identifying each other, and how you eventually revealed yourself.

joe134cd

I'm just curious but has anybody meet some one on Jehovahwitness-net who they knew in their JW lives. Just want to hear experiences. Please include the indicators that led up to you identifying each other, and how you eventually revealed yourself. Thanks

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Continuation of emergency relief fund for the Philippines. What's the happs

by joe134cd in

ok this is a continuation of a previous topic that i had.

please see below.. http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/266302/1/emergency-relief-fund-for-the-philippines-how-will-it-work.

so now that sufficient time has lapsed, what i am wanting to know from someone in the philippines is!

joe134cd

Ok this is a continuation of a previous topic that I had. Please see below.

http://www.jehovahs-witness.net/jw/experiences/266302/1/Emergency-relief-fund-for-the-Philippines-How-will-it-work

So now that sufficient time has lapsed, what I am wanting to know from someone in the Philippines is! Could they please give experiences of the loving assistance that was given (and the extent of it) to the bros and sisters in the effected areas of the Philippines. Was it just a case of keep warm and well feed, have a nice life. Oh and BTW here is your invite to help rebuild the destroyed KH. OR . Was it like in the USA were teams of people came in rebuilding the devastated homes. To know the answer is just killing me.

It saddens me that I have to say this, but i am wanting people to stick to the topic where the key words here are " philippines/assistance". please not the key words here are not " cognitive, brainwashed " etc.

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Can WTBTS legally do this for international conventions.

by joe134cd in

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i was just reading this on jwservey with regard to the international conventions.

if an individual selected to attend a special convention loses his exemplary status and is no longer qualified to attend, the delegate should be thoroughly informed of the reason for your decision.

such a person would be fully responsible for any financial loss associated with his abrupt disqualification as a delegate, even up to the time he was supposed to depart.. .

joe134cd

Yes I agree with you Steve that it is unlikely that some one would take them to task over it. Ok they may be able to dis-invite me to the convention, as they have discretionary right remove trouble makers, just as the police have the right to remove drunken people fighting from a football match. But just because i had an incident at a football match still gives the travel agent the right to cancel the other bookings made for the tour e.g motels, transfers etc, and then to have the bloody cheek to not refund my money.

Like I said I'm no lawyer. But I'm just wondering if they would be breaking some sort of consumer guarantee act. Once I've paid my money then the deal is done. Steve could you ever imagine a person buying a service, and then the service provider refusing to provide it and refused to give a refund, because he latter found out that the person was gay. Even if the person had signed an anti-gay disclosure form. I'm sure it could be challenged in a small claims court if not boarding on illegal.

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Can WTBTS legally do this for international conventions.

by joe134cd in

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i was just reading this on jwservey with regard to the international conventions.

if an individual selected to attend a special convention loses his exemplary status and is no longer qualified to attend, the delegate should be thoroughly informed of the reason for your decision.

such a person would be fully responsible for any financial loss associated with his abrupt disqualification as a delegate, even up to the time he was supposed to depart.. .

joe134cd

Yeah must be able to get away with it. Other wise they wouldn't of said it

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Can WTBTS legally do this for international conventions.

by joe134cd in

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i was just reading this on jwservey with regard to the international conventions.

if an individual selected to attend a special convention loses his exemplary status and is no longer qualified to attend, the delegate should be thoroughly informed of the reason for your decision.

such a person would be fully responsible for any financial loss associated with his abrupt disqualification as a delegate, even up to the time he was supposed to depart.. .

joe134cd

I would think once the money is payed and tickets issued, then there is nothing that they could do to stop me going on the tour. I dont even think that they could legally even stop me from attending the convention. Hey if they want to tell me I can't go, that is fine but I would fully expect to get a refund. I think legally if someone took them to task over it, they would loose. But I'm no lawyer.

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Can WTBTS legally do this for international conventions.

by joe134cd in

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i was just reading this on jwservey with regard to the international conventions.

if an individual selected to attend a special convention loses his exemplary status and is no longer qualified to attend, the delegate should be thoroughly informed of the reason for your decision.

such a person would be fully responsible for any financial loss associated with his abrupt disqualification as a delegate, even up to the time he was supposed to depart.. .

joe134cd

I was just reading this on JWServey with regard to the international conventions.

“If an individual selected to attend a special convention loses his exemplary status and is no longer qualified to attend, the delegate should be thoroughly informed of the reason for your decision. Such a person would be fully responsible for any financial loss associated with his abrupt disqualification as a delegate, even up to the time he was supposed to depart.”

So my question is??? Purely from a legal point of view is, once I have paid my money and tickets issued, is there any way that the society could prevent me going on the tour if fell out with them.?? If they could physically stop me from going, would they have to refund me my money??? Obviously they don't think they have to. Is this breaking the law???

i suppose it's a bit like, a person buying an item in a shop, and once the transaction is done the store owner refuses to hand over the items, or give a refund because he found out she was gay.