Posts by joe134cd

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My first Kingdom Hall zoom meeting

by RULES & REGULATIONS in

i haven't been to any meetings in the last 9 years.

besides a couple of elder visits here and there, i've been pretty much left alone.

my family has also left me alone, and haven't acted any different towards me.. this week my brother, his daughter and his son all called me to invite me for the next weeks memorial and also my nephew's first sunday talk, which he gave today at noon.

joe134cd

Actually I also got a call a couple days back inviting me to the special talk and memorial. I was in a good mind to tell him what I really thought. Instead I was polite and went really quiet. Knowing that JWs have no boundaries. I didn’t want to say to much in that I would never get rid of the guy. I have to be careful because if I told him what I really thought it would eventually get back to PIMI relatives. The call was all over in 2 minutes

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When You Were A Witness Did You Believe Everything Taught?

by minimus in

jw
friends

obviously at some point you stopped believing the witnesses had the truth or else you wouldn’t be here.

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but for the most part, were you a true believer or were you typically a rebel or a doubter?

joe134cd

I had come to the conclusion, for about 2 decades as a PIMI, that Christ came to his end on a cross. It was the only reasonable conclusion.

The cedar point Ohio thing and the revelation book I though may of been pushing the boundaries a bit, but still towed the party line. I wish now that would of been the thing that woke me up.

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Would you leave the Watchtower if you woke up at age 80 plus, or just stay in for the rest of your life.

by pistolpete in

so yesterday while i was doing some work for a customer, i noticed the wt mags on the sofa.

and i asked the elderly man if he was a jehovah witness?.

he said that he and his wife and all his children were raised in the religion, but only he and his wife attend the meetings or zoom.

joe134cd

I am in a similar situation with my elderly father. This has put me in a love hate relationship with WT. Nothing would bring me more delight than seeing wt go down in a blaze of glory. Ironically ,for my fathers sake, it’s an apostate who is trying to shield him from unfavourable information. For example, when “the witness” documentary aired on tv, It was an apostate that took him out to dinner to prevent him accidentally stumbling on it through channel surfing. It is an apostate who has learnt to keep his mouth shut when his father tells him about the apostate driven lies. To wake him now would just be an unkindness, and send him to an early grave. I would much rather be an apostate that kept his mouth shut, than been true to myself and killing him. He’s happy and content, looking forward to been reunited with his wife. So let him be.

I think of the trauma of my exit, when I was in my early 30s. If I had a choice of going through the same process in my 80s and in poor health. I would choose to remain ignorant. There would be no good in knowing that I had wasted years, in the twilight of my life

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Watchtower fined in Belgium

by Vanderhoven7 in

jehovah's witnesses in belgium have to pay €12k fine for shunning policy.

news.

you have probably heard of the trial going on in belgium about the shunning policy of jws.

joe134cd

Despite my joy at hearing this, I can’t see this standing on appeal. It would bankrupt wt if it did.

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Was the latest letter about not having unauthorized studies announced yet to the congregation today is 3-18-21

by goingthruthemotions in

i am just curios if the letter about not having unauthorized studies has been announced yet to the congregation?.

i am just wondering if it will opens anyone's eyes.

i sure hope it does.

joe134cd

This would indicate to me that already cracks are beginning to appear with the internet model. With out physical buildings and face to face contact they will certainly lose the control that they can exude. This is something they have consider if the end game is to sell up and run with the money. I think going in line will be the end of them, or at least in the form that we know them.

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Ban on Independent Meetings

by lssjr in

source - march 2021 announcements - - https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/5085868283920384/2021-march-147-english-german-announcements-reminders.

this is a sobering reminder of what happened some 40 years ago when raymond franz and others were literally kicked out from the jehovah's witnesses for having pre-arranged private spiritual discussions.lesson: paragraph 7 is another example of the i and t in dr. steven hassan's bite model of the 21st century cult - information and thought control at its best!!!!

"my gosh, there must be a lot of independent meetings these days.

joe134cd

Cracks are already beginning to appear. This is something wt has to give serious thought to (Control) if their prime objective is the sell the halls snd run with the money.

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A Gem I over heard at my fathers mid week meeting

by joe134cd in

i overheard this, while my father was listening to the mid week zoom meeting.

apparently all the reshuffling with the bethelites having to do their own food prep and washing was because it would free up space for better utilisation, and bethelites who were needed for these jobs could now be out in the field ministry.

omg😳 i also chocked when i heard that.

joe134cd

It wasn’t so much the information that made me choke. It was more the spin on it and then for my father to turn around and put new light on it just blew me away.

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A Gem I over heard at my fathers mid week meeting

by joe134cd in

i overheard this, while my father was listening to the mid week zoom meeting.

apparently all the reshuffling with the bethelites having to do their own food prep and washing was because it would free up space for better utilisation, and bethelites who were needed for these jobs could now be out in the field ministry.

omg😳 i also chocked when i heard that.

joe134cd

I overheard this, while my father was listening to the mid week zoom meeting. Apparently all the reshuffling with the Bethelites having to do their own food prep and washing was because it would free up space for better utilisation, and Bethelites who were needed for these jobs could now be out in the field ministry. Omg😳 I also chocked when I heard that. My question is, was this answer just a personal opinion or was it down in writing? Anybody else hear something similar. P.S To make the matters even worse my father then went on to compare the reshuffle in Bethel to the light getting brighter. Man I just can’t handle this nonsense.

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How to tell my parents that i dont want to be a jw?Please help, im begging...

by ihatemylife in

fist of all my first language is not english so i apologise for any mistakes.i am 17 my whole family is jw.i am so sick of this i cry all the time i wasted my teen years doing nothing, no friends, no parties, no going out, no fun.i am scared for my life because if i tell them they will kick me out, i have no money to move out.i am curentlly studying the bible with my mom just because i am scared to tell her that i dont want to.please help me with some advice im begging.my life depends on this......

joe134cd

I was thinking about this post last night. The cost and responsibility of freedom, and how I relate to it. I have a relative that thought he could live with out rules when he left the JWs. To be fair I think he had issues even while he was JW, but certainly lived every bit of freedom. He is now addicted to drugs, homeless living in a car with a popped ignition, and all of his kids taken off him. He is in a very sorry state of affairs. Is he specifically to blame, was it the religion, or was it a combination of the two. Idk, but it’s sobering to think on.

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How to tell my parents that i dont want to be a jw?Please help, im begging...

by ihatemylife in

fist of all my first language is not english so i apologise for any mistakes.i am 17 my whole family is jw.i am so sick of this i cry all the time i wasted my teen years doing nothing, no friends, no parties, no going out, no fun.i am scared for my life because if i tell them they will kick me out, i have no money to move out.i am curentlly studying the bible with my mom just because i am scared to tell her that i dont want to.please help me with some advice im begging.my life depends on this......

joe134cd

Truth_b_known - I thought that was a very beautiful piece of writing.

Always remember that freedom comes at a cost. Some who leave the JWs fail to heed this warning and very soon find themselves in some very unfavourable circumstances. Maybe through their own fault, perhaps a result of a jw up bringing,or maybe a combination of the two. I’m still undecided. One thing I can certainly tell you is that if you are leaving because of not been able to go out and party. This could very well come back and bite you. Hence I always ask the question do the reasons for leaving ,and the age at which a person leaves, effect the outcome.