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  Know it’s not true but stay anyway

  by Elena in

  1. watchtower
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  how many of the millions of jws know it’s not true but stay anyway?.

  my guess is most jws know it’s not true on a subconscious level to an extent but they don’t want to think about it too much and would never ever voice it out loud.. but this is probably true with all religions around the world?.

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  Well I can only speak for the country I live in. The census figure has always been twice that stated by watchtower. This is still the case at present. This figure is slowly starting to change, but not significantly. My argument, here in, is if the org is full of PIMOs they are certainly not choosing to identify as such when given the freedom to do so in the census.
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  After watching this. All I can say is be thankful you were a JW.

  by joe134cd in

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  2. scandals

  https://youtu.be/tmcl4gizjii?si=xoapw8c1nug_ffuz.

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  https://youtu.be/tmCl4GIZjiI?si=XOAPw8c1NuG_Ffuz
  
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  The Governing Body is Restructuring the Org.and encouranging young ones to REACH OUT!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body just doesn't let up on encouraging the young children to reach out to do free labor for the organization.

  so another generation of young people with ruined lives.

  another generation of young people that will get old and wake up in their 50s to realize they were in a religious doomsday cult.. and they are getting rid of some old workers that ran the branches of the organization, and giving them different assignments or maybe they are just sending them home, who knows.

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  I can give a very good example of this in my local area. This guy was the longest serving CO, ever, in my country. He must of been in the job 40 years plus??? He was also a total arse, who I didn't like, and was known for his disparaging remarks about women. Anyway he managed to survive and stay in the job.

  Mean while the Bethel here gets sold, money moves off shore, and because of his age he is no longer fit for purpose and is let go. I did hear that Wt was paying him money as a special pioneer, due to his long service. I'm just wondering if anybody else has heard of this and could confirm it. His first rented house he moves into isn't up to standard due to insulation, dampness, and rats. Luckily some kind soul rents him a place well below market rent. Fit for purpose but not by much.

  I believe he is now in a nursing home suffering from dementia and despite the special pioneer allowance he recieves from Wt, and his personal savings. It would be no where near the amount required to keep him in a nursing home. What really pisses me off with this guy, is that it's now the tax payer that's fitting the bill. He can count his, bloody, lucky stars that he lives in a country that has a pretty good welfare system. If he didn't he could quite possibly be dead. This guy was a total arse for buying into it, and Wt just wiped their hands of any responsibility.
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  Is Belief in Jesus Enough to be Saved? Or Does it Include Believing Jesus?

  by Sea Breeze in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i don't think it is possible to believe in jesus and then not believe what he said.

  the purpose of the watchtower organization is to take as many people to hell as possible.

  they do this by tricking people into rejecting the bare minimum requirements for the free gift of salvation that jesus offered to ”whosoever”.. one of the stipulations for salvation is belief that jesus was raised from the dead:.

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  Is believing that a low fat diet will help me lose weight. Not unless I put it into practice.
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  The Governing Body is Restructuring the Org.and encouranging young ones to REACH OUT!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body just doesn't let up on encouraging the young children to reach out to do free labor for the organization.

  so another generation of young people with ruined lives.

  another generation of young people that will get old and wake up in their 50s to realize they were in a religious doomsday cult.. and they are getting rid of some old workers that ran the branches of the organization, and giving them different assignments or maybe they are just sending them home, who knows.

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  What really annoys me about the above situation, is that it's now the tax payer that fits the bill for the nursing home, all the while Wt now wipes its hands of him and walks away. Where I talk about the substandard apartment I believe there was a problem with warmth and rats. I chose not to mention that. Lucky for him some kind soul took pitty on him, which got him out of that situation. How sad that the political wild beast, in Revelation, cares more about Gods faithful servant, than Jehovah's appointed here on earth. Wt if you read-this, for the way this guy got treated, I hope you rot in hell for it.
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  The Governing Body is Restructuring the Org.and encouranging young ones to REACH OUT!

  by liam in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the governing body just doesn't let up on encouraging the young children to reach out to do free labor for the organization.

  so another generation of young people with ruined lives.

  another generation of young people that will get old and wake up in their 50s to realize they were in a religious doomsday cult.. and they are getting rid of some old workers that ran the branches of the organization, and giving them different assignments or maybe they are just sending them home, who knows.

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  I can give a very recent example of this in my local area. This guy was the longest serving CO in the country. I remember him as a CO when I was a little kid. Tbh a bit of an unusual guy, who I really didn't like. But he was a company man, who was the top brass his whole life.

  So what happens. 10 years ago the local bethel here get sold for millions. The money and operations gets moved off shore. He's now elderly, no use to them, and is let go.

  To be fair I did hear a comment that Wt was giving him some sort of assistance. But I have no way of verifying this, or the amount. Can anyone confirm this please. So I was told, he then moves into a very substandard apartment. The local witnesses then find him better accomodation. Better, but not by much. I believe now he was recently put into a rest home, as he is now suffering from dementia. For which the tax payer now meets the shortfall, for which Wt doesn't pay. I couldnt imagine Wt fitting the bill for $2000-$2500 weekly in rest home care. This guy can count his lucky stars that this country has a very good welfare system for those who are unable to care for themselves. I wouldn't be surprised if the government also pays to bury him, as he dies penniless.

  I'm guessing on a whole, with in time, as his dementia worsens. He will be forgotten about. So sad, for a guy who gave his all, to be treated the way he did. This is coming from me, a guy who really didn't even like him.
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  Thought this was interesting about Utah been the capital of soda consumption.

  by joe134cd in

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  https://youtu.be/blnjc_olbyw?si=xhcmuk-qmxri638r .

  who would think religion even effect fizzy drinks.

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  https://youtu.be/BlNJc_OLbYw?si=XhcMUK-QmXRi638R

  who would think religion even effect fizzy drinks.
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  I think I may be becoming an X-X-JW

  by joe134cd in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  i think i may be moving on shortly.

  i officially joined this web-site 12 years ago as pimo about to exit the organisation.

  i had spent about a year before that, as just a none commenting member.

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  I think I may be moving on shortly. I officially joined this web-site 12 years ago as PIMO about to exit the organisation. I had spent about a year before that, as just a none commenting member. There has been no other web sight that has had such a life changing impact on me. Thank you so much Simon. I remember my first post entitled "I'm just tired of this." I was surprised that I had 3 different members here give me their numbers, saying I could call them. Which I found surprising and very moving, considering how apostates are portrayed. Thank you so much for your very kind words Flipper. In that time I've seen a lot come and go.

  I have found just recently that my interest in things XJW has slowly weaned over time. In fact I find it now just irritating. My commenting on here over time has gone down as well. I know JWisim is a scam and I can't really go any further. I've made some good friends on here, Fat boy slim. One day fat boy slim May come for a visit idk. But I think I'm moving on. All the best you good people.
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  Do JWs see the org falling apart?

  by ThomasDam21 in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i have been away from the jw cult for many years.

  i don't have any family i talk to that are in it.

  so i don't know if the jws as a whole are seeing the cult fall apart or if they or the majority of them are head in the sand la la la the end is neigh.

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  While PIMO, progressing to POMO, I was assigned to count attendance. 2/3 were over the age of 50. Another thing I noticed is the lack of youth present.
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  Top Jw YouTube channel

  by Mit123 in

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  2. friends

  looks like panda tower has overtaken cedars with 116mil followers.

  is he the top jw youtuber?.

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  In the Spanish speaking community, the views can be in the millions. I find it quite staggering really.