Posts by Uzzah

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Addicted to Misery

by Lady Lee in

yup one more of my recovery threads.. for the last few years i have had a copy of a book sitting on my shelf called addicted to misery: the other side of co-dependency by robert becker.

early on in the recovery movement a co-dependent person was a term used mostly for people who were in a relationship with an alcoholic.

more recently it has been recognized that so-dependency can refer to any kind of addcion to substances or behaviors.

Thanks for these excerpts. Even while still a JW I remember thinking that some people in the Congregations thrived on trouble. As long as they could be martyrs they were zealous examples in the congregation. But when life was good (and they allowed it to be good) they dropped off the JW scene.

I know many people who are like that out of the JW realm as well. They seem to thrive on strife. If a good day came along they wouldn't know what to do with it. Life does not have to be one bad situation after another. But some almost sabotage their lives (often unconsciously) just to maintain the anxiety to which they have become comfortable. "I wouldn't know what to do with myself if I didn't have to deal with ..."

Not everyone going through years of problems are like this. There's not too much you can do if trying to cope with a depilating illness for example.

Even if the exJW world, there are some that have been out for decades, been vehemently angry and striking out for as many years and are still as angry and hurting as they were 20-30 years ago. I can't help but wonder how much of this can be attributed to the desire to live in adversity rather than facing a 'dreaded change' to living life happily?

Uzzah - mostly at peace but still trying to figure many things out

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Addicted to Misery

by Lady Lee in

yup one more of my recovery threads.. for the last few years i have had a copy of a book sitting on my shelf called addicted to misery: the other side of co-dependency by robert becker.

early on in the recovery movement a co-dependent person was a term used mostly for people who were in a relationship with an alcoholic.

more recently it has been recognized that so-dependency can refer to any kind of addcion to substances or behaviors.

Uzzah

Jgnat: Your comments work both ways actually.

I have wondered, though, if men with a history of moving from one bad relationship to another, might have blamed this syndrome for their problems. Some of my divorced friends have claimed they are magnets for users. I have decided, after much observation, that all men meet users. He might find out on the first date, ... The difference is, will the man have the guts to leave her when he finds out?

So I figure, it is odds to evens when we head out in to the dating scene. The trick is to recognize abusive PEOPLE, and to walk away if they are.

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Going to court.... I need info/advice please...

by outbutnotdown in

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i haven't been real active here lately, but some might remember that i am going through a divorce with my ex, which, it seems will have to be terminated at a trial.

she is technically still a jw.... (not df'd but she publically despises the religion).. and her mother is a regular pioneer.

my ex is continuing to allow her mother to have a lot of influence over my kids, including that i recently found out that my oldest (of four) son's exercise book (that goes to school showing what he has been reading at home) had almost all the entries being from their, "greatest man who ever lived" book.

Uzzah

I used to work in the Legal Department in Georgeotwon. Imay be of assistance to you. Please feel free to PM using this site or email at uzzah1998 at hotmail com Of course format the above email addy appropriately. I just typed it that way to avoid spiders

(For example) The School brochure was re-written by legal to make it a more court friendly document. Make sure your lawyer introduces both versions of the same brochure into evidence. It clearly highlights where the society is trying to malke itself look better.

I hope to hear from you

Uzzah

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JW Death

by Nosferatu in

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i figured i'd post this.

me and my dad studied with him for a couple of years.. john william bodner.

peacefully, on monday, april 5, 2004, john bodner, beloved husband of verna, died at the health sciences centre.. visitation will be held on friday, april 9 from 7:00 to 9:00 pm at cropo funeral chapel, 1442 main st. a memorial service will be held on saturday, april 10 at 3:00 pm at the kingdom hall centre, 229 lakewood blvc.. longer obituary to follow.. .

Uzzah

Thank you for posting this.

I used to do a lot of work with John over the years regarding HLC and Regional building. He was an astute businessman.

Thanks again for posting the obit in full.

Uzzah

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Canadian JW's Sue Over Blood Transfusion

by Kenneson in

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jehovah's witnesses have lost a case in nevada over an administered blood transfusion to a child, as announced today.

now, also, they are suing a canadian province over their son's forced blood transfusions.

wonder if the nevada supreme court ruling could have any effect in a canadian court???

Uzzah

Great letter Hawk! (As always)

I wonder if her readers would find it amusing that Shane Brady had to prove himself as a Bethel waiter for 6 years before the Watchtower Society paid for him to go to Law School.

Is his loyalty to his 'alleged' client or to the Watchtower Society?

Drop me a note later Hawk, if you want another letter to be sent independant of yours but supporting the same position.

Uzzah

so many arks, so little time

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Found a Second Aircraft Owned by The WT

by Gerard in

this aircraft is the same model owned by the wt.

it is a twin-engine piper pa-31-310 navajo and it's n number is n254sw

as their other cessna twin-engine, this one is also based in alaska.

Uzzah

Gerard:

The Society has purchased several brand new Peterbilt tractor trailers, with a huge sleeping compartment for the driver too! A couple of these would equal the cost of that Cesna.

A Cesna in Alaska is about as common as seeing a tractor trailer in the city. Any COMPANY doing business in Alaska pretty much owns their own or has regular access to a plane. It is all part of doing business. How else would you expect the travelling DO's and CO's to get around the State in the winter? To us in the south it might seem excessive but up there it is commonplace.

I am sure there is the ocasional abuse of it by Bethelites, but humans, JW or otherwise, do take advantage of things.

There is no real scandal here, imo.

Uzzah

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FORMER JW ELDERS, on JWD, 2004 LIST

by jst2laws in

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it has been difficult getting my old database to accept new info and then there was no way to edit the old thread so this is it on a new thread.

this is a follow up from the older: .

yrs bethel

Uzzah

You can me to your list as well

Uzzah - 17 years baptized, 14 years full time service (11 of which was in Bethel), elder.

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Working For Masons?

by Valis in

what would you say if a loyal dub was to go to work for an organization run by masons?

say for instance a hospital?

do you think this would cause certain ethical probs or no?.

Uzzah

The JW's are against anything interfaith. The Masons are an interfaith group in that people of any religious denomination are welcome. A simple proclamation of a belief in a supreme being is all that is required to be a member. Even if you cannot give an answer as to what form/name/existence that divine is you can still be a Mason.

I joined the masons for their charitable work. I have found no reason to feel negatively about being a mason.

Uzzah - who is basically agnostic but was still welcomed as a Mason

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My Dad died a few hours ago

by BONEZZ in

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excuse me if i ramble...this is hard.

i have even avoided threads in the past where others have had to go thru this because i didn't want to face it.

guess i'm a wuss.

Uzzah

I am very sorry for your loss. It was 5 weeks ago today my own father died and the feelings are still a little raw. Take the time you need to grieve and don't let anyone tell you how you should feel.

May your memories of him bring a smile to your face. You are his legacy.

Wishing you well.

Uzzah

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IMPORTANT REQUEST

by Amazing1914 in

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if you are an ex-elder ... there is something important i need to request of you.

please pm me using my current screen name amazing1914.

i will then relay the request to you.

Uzzah

Thanks for the heads up.

I will get in touch with the lawyers directly to see how I can be of help. Communication directly with the lawyer is more easily protected as privileged.

Uzzah