Posts by sherrie11

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Leviticus 5:1 New ..NWT 2013

by sherrie11 in

david splain "using delightful words and accurate words of truth.

" presented his talk at the agm.

they have revised the interpretation of leviticus 5:1. leviticus 5:1 old nwt "now in the case that a soul sins in that he has heard public cursing...blah blah..".

sherrie11

David Splain "Using delightful words and accurate words of truth." presented his talk at the AGM

They have revised the interpretation of leviticus 5:1

leviticus 5:1 OLD NWT "now in the case that a soul sins in that he has heard public cursing...blah blah.."

"The thought in Leviticus 5:1 is not about profanity"

I have checked the bible in living english and it uses the word imprecation which means

imprecation - a slanderous accusation

accusal, accusation - a formal charge of wrongdoing brought against a person; the act of imputing blame or guilt

I also checked other translations

International Standard Version
"If someone sins because he has failed to testify after receiving notice to testify as a witness regarding what he has observed or learned, he is to be held responsible."

Could they use this scripture to use against family members and associates to speak up in regard to suspected apostates?

He goes on ..

"The original NWT is a masterful, wonderful translation. We should use it for reference. For our meetings, service and study, we should use the revised.

Words change over time.

"You would hardly call a brother with a sunny disposition gay." – David Splain

Lordy LOrdy

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What level of IQ does one have, to beleive " TRUTH " changes. ? or old "Light " old truths " New Light " new truths " ?

by smiddy in

okay, i never went to university , or had a college education, though i`m damn sure that "truth" is "truth" and it never changes.. if you" beleived "something was the truth in the past and now found out it was not correct , you cant say it was an" old " truth ,it must have been wrong/false reasoning in the first place......so it was never really the truth.. sure you can be aware of a "new" truth something you never knew beforehand , though whether you knew it or not ,it has always been a truth.

example:the earth was the centre of the universe ,beleived as a truth.........that beleif was false , it was not an old truth.. if their was something you beleived before as true and you now find it wasnt true , then it was false / untrue .. their is no such thing as an "old truth " and a "new truth" that is apparently accepted by jehovahs witnesses .. if jehovahs witnesses were as honest as they profess , then they would acknowledge when they make adjustments to their beleifs/doctrines that they were wrong in their initial understanding of said scriptures instead of passing it off as old truths or new light.. i was a witness for 33 years before it became obvious something was just not right with this religion and it took another 10-12 years before i found this site , that set me free.

so i ask , is it an iq level ?

sherrie11

Ok according to the society Jehobah loves people with low IQ's. I was reading Drjohnchrists reddit post regarding the AGM and came across this gem

"Clear, common, readily used expressions are better than "intelligencia". Jehovah's not impressed with big words."

Inspired words of the infamous Anthony Morris III

He also advised the R&F " everybody who might study a little Hebrew or Greek or Aramaic "not a translator".

So there we have it!!!.

'A translator must consider that the bible was written using the common everyday language of ordinary people. Not the educated."

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What am I going to wear to the AGM?

by sherrie11 in

this is what some spiritual women in the troof and that have been honoured with an invitation to the historic agm will be thinking.. i am going to admit one of the reasons i enjoyed the meetings was getting to dress up.

how many women out there found the meetings an excuse to dress up.

how often did you shop or co ordinate outfits so you looked great every meeting.. .

sherrie11

This is what some spiritual women in the troof and that have been honoured with an invitation to the historic AGM will be thinking.

I am going to admit one of the reasons I enjoyed the meetings was getting to dress up. How many women out there found the meetings an excuse to dress up. How often did you shop or co ordinate outfits so you looked great every meeting.

Please sisters share your experiences.

I didnt know what designer clothes were before I joined the cult.

I also didnt realise being popular boils down to how you look in that organization

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What am I going to wear to the AGM?

by sherrie11 in

to the women out there that have been honoured with an invitation this is the question they ask themself.. .

i am going to admit one of the reasons i enjoyed the meetings was getting to dress up.

how many women out there found the meetings an excuse to dress up.

sherrie11

To the women out there that have been honoured with an invitation this is the question they ask themself.

I am going to admit one of the reasons I enjoyed the meetings was getting to dress up. How many women out there found the meetings an excuse to dress up. How often did you shop or co ordinate outfits so you looked great every meeting. Please sisters share your experiences.

ps:

I didnt know what designer clothes were before I joined the cult.

I also didn't know that ones spirituality was rated to how one looked!

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Individual Governing Body Members and Lawsuits

by jw07 in

i don't know if this has any legal implications:.

since the identities of the individual members of the governing body have been publicly confirmed (not that we didn't know that before) can that open the way for direct lawsuits to be leveled against members?.

for instance are there any laws in the usa that would open the way for geoffrey jackson to be targetted by the lawsuits from child abuse or no blood transfusion deaths?.

sherrie11

David Miscavige the head of the Scientology is currently staring down the barrel of a civil lawsuit. he is the spiritual leader of scientologists. he is currently trying to get out of being subpoenad to a case against scientology and harressment. They dont call people names like evil apostate they track them down and make their life physically difficult.

http://tonyortega.org/2013/09/12/live-from-texas-the-monique-rathbun-vs-scientology-temporary-injunction-hearing/

http://tonyortega.org/2013/09/13/monique-rathbun-vs-scientology-day-2-texas-showdown-shifts-gears/#more-10069

the case is about how the spiritual head does have a lot to say in the entire running of the org.

This could be a benchmark and then perhaps the FDS GB Magnificent 8 have a lot of explaining

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What level of IQ does one have, to beleive " TRUTH " changes. ? or old "Light " old truths " New Light " new truths " ?

by smiddy in

okay, i never went to university , or had a college education, though i`m damn sure that "truth" is "truth" and it never changes.. if you" beleived "something was the truth in the past and now found out it was not correct , you cant say it was an" old " truth ,it must have been wrong/false reasoning in the first place......so it was never really the truth.. sure you can be aware of a "new" truth something you never knew beforehand , though whether you knew it or not ,it has always been a truth.

example:the earth was the centre of the universe ,beleived as a truth.........that beleif was false , it was not an old truth.. if their was something you beleived before as true and you now find it wasnt true , then it was false / untrue .. their is no such thing as an "old truth " and a "new truth" that is apparently accepted by jehovahs witnesses .. if jehovahs witnesses were as honest as they profess , then they would acknowledge when they make adjustments to their beleifs/doctrines that they were wrong in their initial understanding of said scriptures instead of passing it off as old truths or new light.. i was a witness for 33 years before it became obvious something was just not right with this religion and it took another 10-12 years before i found this site , that set me free.

so i ask , is it an iq level ?

sherrie11

Smiddy

I don't think IQ has anything to do with knowing truth from lie. As you mention in your post Galliano discovered that the earth was not the centre of the universe. Yes prior to his discovery this was believed as truth, fact, but galliano's truth became fact. Never was the previous teaching labelled as a lie . but nor was it announced as newlight!

Only the WTBTS coin the saying old truth and new truth. They play with words and blur fact from fiction... lie from truth. they are conditioned to believe lying doesnt exist in their doctrine.

You dont need a high IQ to differiente between fact and fiction, lies and truth, unless of course your blinded by the cunning wording the society uses to dumb their masses.

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Bragging among JWs...

by ohnightdivine in

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posting about the wonderful preaching day on fb... posting about what they ate for lunch, snacks, dinner after preaching... posting about rubbing elbows with the co, do, etc... posting about getting into pioneer school... swooning over the latest gadgets, right after the meeting... being obsessed about what clothes to wear during the assemblies.... etc.. etc... being proud of having an sp, bethelite, etc relative... being unable to take pride in academic, secular, or other normal achievements leads to the above, i guess.. and it's not at all different from how "worldly" people behave these days... .

sherrie11

SfPW

"Why boast in anything related to this system of things in consideration if it's impending collapse? Truly unreasonable! How much more sensible it is to boast in Jehovah by pioneering, or volunteering your time and skills for our projects in Warwick, NY?"

Your dead right.

There's plenty of other ways to have a share in the organization.........just dont ask questions about this systems impending collapse (Warwick NY will be completed 2017) and give $$$$$$

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Literature carts are the cruisiest way to preach ever - photo attached

by jwfacts in

it was a perfect spring day, and a jazz band were playing in the mall near my work.

in front of the band, two watchtower literature carts stood in solidarity.

i could not work out who were the jws attending them.

sherrie11

My blood has boiled, ..for the last 3 months i have walked past one of these stalls in inner city Newcastle Australia.The guardians of the stall always have head down not acknowledging any one!!!. I want to say something to them ie: pioneering hours logged... dishonesty non pro-active preaching.... i am nervous when speaking to any jdubs. I think I need to write letter of complaint to society in Australia " no one approaches me when i am standing at the display"! smells an easy way to count time

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JW drone posted typical JW response about Syria on my Facebook wall

by TheStumbler in

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i like to keep politics and religion off my facebook.

i have friends.

colleagues and relatives on there from all different backgrounds.

sherrie11

One of my first awakenings was trusting in human nature, it wasn't easy for quite some kind. One day it clicked the JW's belittle humanity. here I was staring down the barrel of a world full of humanity via charities and opinion of individuals. The world is full of contradictions but i believe from the bottom of my heart human nature cherishes peaceful outcomes for all. when I was in 'the truth' i ignored fireman rescuing people and strangers saving others life. Acts of unselfishness. It was a major moment of realising i had be disillusioned. As John Lennon said lets give peace a chance. Lets give humanity a chance with all our foibles as humans.

If deleting the comment made you feel better than good for you.

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Now I'm not a JW, is it ok for me to...

by Julia Orwell in

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...drink a lot?

gosh i love wine.

i like a good bottle of wine each night, and i have a high tolerance to alcohol, though i never drank much (except for a couple of times with the vodka, but i don't keep that stuff in the house anymore, way too dangerous) as a jw because getting slightly happy is a 'sin'.

sherrie11

Julia, Your post has made me feel better. I too like to have a glass or two of red wine of an evening. Hey Fulltimestudent Ron Walters was an elder in the first congregation I was in. In fact his wife studied with me. sorry to go off topic Julia, He would have a glass or wine or two with his meals, although i got the impression he frowned upon heavy drinking as we had a brother who loved to watch the footy of a sunday and drink a six pack or two. He was never allowed to be an MS. Small world!!