the watchtower has taught for over a century that plague is part of jesus’ sign letting earth know he’s lurkin’.... combined with the recent acceleration by the chinese gubmint of ejecting jws from china, it’s no surprise that dubs are of the belief that ‘jehovah is punishing china’.. dubs must be expecting a few large earthquakes to strike china in the next weeks with possibly a war or two, to round out the pain of jesus’ sign to these wicked jehovah haters..
He didn’t believe me. I would love to show him the studies.
Steel, you don't get it.
As sir82 mentioned, and I quote, "it would be more productive and less painful to have someone drop cinder blocks on your head"
Yes, or a root canal without anestesia.
Trust us.
Rub a Dub
i just had this flashback when commenting on another thread about how they used to announce reproof or dfing from the platform.
at least in our congregation, it was a dramatic event (this is what i can remember from back in the mid-late 60's or early 70's when i was a kid).. at the end of the service meeting, just before singing the final song, the brother would announce, "we have a letter that must be read.
the "congregation servant" (my grandfather or later my father) would then slowly walk from the back of the kh to the platform.
I can remember when they used to re-instate people and the congregation would burst into spontaneous applause at the joy of it! ... The elders took a dim view ...
Number 6 ...
I can tell you exactly why that "policy" changed, from at least two elders in Bethel at the time.
It had to do particularly with people at the time who had committed adultery, remarried, and then later reinstated. It was felt, especially if the innocent person was at the KH, that it was disrespectful to have everyone clapping and hugging and kissing the person when the innocent person may be there watching. I guess watching perhaps two people who had committed adultery in the same congregation getting reinstated would be too much for some people to handle. I could understand that.
It could also have involved other sins in which an innocent person may be in attendance.
You can't pick one sin to clap for and one sin not to clap for so the "policy" was changed to tone down the welcome back to the Borg.
Rub a Dub
i just had this flashback when commenting on another thread about how they used to announce reproof or dfing from the platform.
at least in our congregation, it was a dramatic event (this is what i can remember from back in the mid-late 60's or early 70's when i was a kid).. at the end of the service meeting, just before singing the final song, the brother would announce, "we have a letter that must be read.
the "congregation servant" (my grandfather or later my father) would then slowly walk from the back of the kh to the platform.
@cofty ...
Similar thing in my old KH.
Had a family move in with two kids. Extremely nice kids and the wife was so kind. He was DF'd.
I don't think they missed a meeting in three years. Apparently, he was not aware that you had to ask to be reinstated and thought it was just something that is automatic.
Anyway, he was reinstated. They came to maybe one or two meetings after that and were never at the KH again. The elders made some excuse that he was working too much or something. But that was it.
Rub a Dub
i just had this flashback when commenting on another thread about how they used to announce reproof or dfing from the platform.
at least in our congregation, it was a dramatic event (this is what i can remember from back in the mid-late 60's or early 70's when i was a kid).. at the end of the service meeting, just before singing the final song, the brother would announce, "we have a letter that must be read.
the "congregation servant" (my grandfather or later my father) would then slowly walk from the back of the kh to the platform.
We had twin brothers in our congregation who joined the army at the same time. I recall my father reading two letters, one by one, that so and so and then so and so are DF'd. He gave no reason although that was still common at the time.
I guess my father (RIP) was smart enough at the time to not mention anything about joining the military as a reason to DF someone. I even asked him when we got home why he did not do it and I remember he said "Everyone already knows."
Rub a Dub
several of the jws i know have recently graduated/incorporated wifi sensitivity into their (self) diagnosis of chemical sensitivity.
they seem to be particularly terrified of the new 5g, with some even believing that it's the new 5g that's causing coronavirus in china.
the fact that even though they maybe able to turn off their own wifi but will still have all the other wifi signals around them doesn't seem to occur to these jws.
Thank you all for the clarification.
tiki ...
We are here to share.
Rub a Dub
i just had this flashback when commenting on another thread about how they used to announce reproof or dfing from the platform.
at least in our congregation, it was a dramatic event (this is what i can remember from back in the mid-late 60's or early 70's when i was a kid).. at the end of the service meeting, just before singing the final song, the brother would announce, "we have a letter that must be read.
the "congregation servant" (my grandfather or later my father) would then slowly walk from the back of the kh to the platform.
Probation was that the same as a public reproof ?
Fadeaway ...
Technically no. From a practical standpoint, basically yes.
Probably 40 years ago or so it was changed based on the premise that once a person shows evidence of repentance, there is no specific time limit they need to live with. You are forgiven. God is not looking at a calendar.
However, there are still restrictions now that are imposed in many cases. It's just more of a private thing with no specific time period. This also applies to private reproof.
For example, you are told that you will not lead the congregation in prayer or some other thing. It lasts for some number of months or however long the committee decides it to be.
There is just no fixed time period anymore and it is kept more quiet.
Rub a Dub
does anyone here know what became of "yerusalyim"?
he was a good guy.
just wondering....
He is doing 2 to 5 in louisiana for robing a convenience store
The Bethelite ...
Do you know if he has internet access?
Rub a Dub
i just had this flashback when commenting on another thread about how they used to announce reproof or dfing from the platform.
at least in our congregation, it was a dramatic event (this is what i can remember from back in the mid-late 60's or early 70's when i was a kid).. at the end of the service meeting, just before singing the final song, the brother would announce, "we have a letter that must be read.
the "congregation servant" (my grandfather or later my father) would then slowly walk from the back of the kh to the platform.
Anybody remember announcements that somebody had been put on 'probation'?
cofty ...
Yes, absolutely yes. I remember it being for 6 months or a year, depending on the "severity" of the offense.
I think they stopped doing that after the movie Animal House came up with phrase "double secret probation" ... lol.
Rub a Dub
i just had this flashback when commenting on another thread about how they used to announce reproof or dfing from the platform.
at least in our congregation, it was a dramatic event (this is what i can remember from back in the mid-late 60's or early 70's when i was a kid).. at the end of the service meeting, just before singing the final song, the brother would announce, "we have a letter that must be read.
the "congregation servant" (my grandfather or later my father) would then slowly walk from the back of the kh to the platform.
At least in our congregation, my father (PO or whatever they called it then) had the courtesy to read the public reproof of two people for adultery in the congregation on two separate service meetings.
Everybody knew who it was, but at least my father was trying to put a shine on it.
Rub a Dub
i just had this flashback when commenting on another thread about how they used to announce reproof or dfing from the platform.
at least in our congregation, it was a dramatic event (this is what i can remember from back in the mid-late 60's or early 70's when i was a kid).. at the end of the service meeting, just before singing the final song, the brother would announce, "we have a letter that must be read.
the "congregation servant" (my grandfather or later my father) would then slowly walk from the back of the kh to the platform.
"We are sorry to announce that Brother Weirdigan is no longer one of Jehovahs Witnesses. Now, a local-needs talk about the sin of sheep-shagging ..."
Simon ...
You got it right! That's true but funny.
After the fear of being sued, they simply read the letter and then shortly thereafter had a local needs talk which basically gave the details of what you should not do.
It was a farce.
Rub a Dub
