when i served as an elder i never heard of this scenario presenting itself - giving blood.. has anyone heard of a judicial case where a person donated and was disfellowshipped?
are there any references to this in the jw publications, manuals, handbooks?.
not so hiddenpimo :-).
Fadeaway ...
A 60 year old WT article will not hold much weight, especially with all the changes in the blood doctrine in the past 20 years or so.
As I mentioned above, if you were seen by another JW and said you were donating it for other "allowable" purposes, you might get a slap on the hand, told not to do it again, but that would be it. Unless, of course, if you were on their radar for other things.
Rub a Dub
when i served as an elder i never heard of this scenario presenting itself - giving blood.. has anyone heard of a judicial case where a person donated and was disfellowshipped?
are there any references to this in the jw publications, manuals, handbooks?.
not so hiddenpimo :-).
First of all, if you just did it, the odds would be very slim that anyone would even know. I doubt there are any JW's that work at a blood bank.
Second, if someone did see you, you could just say that you were giving it for one of the acceptable fractions such as for hemophilia or some other "acceptable" use.
The worse that would happen would be that they would tell you not to do it anymore since you may stumble someone.
Rub a Dub
i am wondering if the dems dropping out who were "in it to the end" are dropping out because of having to shake hands and go into crowds with the corona virus spreading.
hmmm.
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Face it, he's damaged goods - everyone know his family has been on the take and he's a corrupt senile old fart.
Are we talking about Biden, the Orange Man or both of them?
Rub a Dub
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
As has been mentioned on other threads, it's not the severity of the virus, but the method(s) of transmission. This is the biggest question out there: if you touch someone, breath their air, sit on their toilet, get in a bus with them, get in an airplane with them ???
With the flu, at least you have a reasonable chance of avoiding it with a flu shot.
With this shit, what do you even do? Hide in your house? Shut the windows? Take a Clorox shower?
At this point, who knows.
Rub a Dub
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
Down here in South Florida, there does not seem to be any panic yet.
I bought a couple boxes of the wipes yesterday and an extra bottle of Clorox at Walmart.
I also have 2 cases of Corona, a dozen limes, 2 cases of Leffe Blond and 2 1.75 litre bottles of Johnny Walker Black and a full wine rack.
I already have enough rice and beans for several months, a full freezer and about 30 rolls of toilet paper.
In an emergency, I have a huge 5 litre bottle of Tequila we bought at a duty-free store at the airport in Mexico City last year. We also have a small lime tree in our back yard.
We're good to go.
Rub a Dub
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
it could be in the homeless population of California for instance, and good luck containing it then.
Simon ...
Excellent point. If this thing gets into the streets, we will have to shut the cities down.
Rub a Dub
this topic is to focus on status updates & advice (no opinion or politics please).. status.
latest status is that it's serious, probably isn't going to be contained and most large companies are making contingency plans, cancelling large events etc... which i don't think would happen if it was just people being alarmist.
the incubation period means it may have already spread further and infected many more people than are currently known, so expect jumps in the numbers over the coming days and weeks.. tracking.
This HAS to be affecting businesses here in the US.
My wife and I may get Chinese take-out twice a month. No longer! She won't touch it.
Multiply that ($25 x 2) per month with who knows how many others adopt the same attitude. She is even concerned about going to Walmart since so much of their stuff comes from China.
I know she is over-reacting, but I am sure she is not the only one who is changing buying habits.
Rub a Dub
yes, it’s donald trump’s problem and he has no idea of how to take care of this!
and he gets his vp mike pence to oversee this situation.
donald trump doesn’t care about who could get this virus.
Pence is a pol with strong religious values. So what???
Min ...
Unless you are a dictator in a third world country, you should realize that you represent all of the people.
Remember, as our Lord and Savior Judge Rutherford said, "Religion is a snare and a racket."
(He, he, he he, he). Wasn't that a great transition? Maybe I should have been a lawyer myself.
Rub a Dub
yes, it’s donald trump’s problem and he has no idea of how to take care of this!
and he gets his vp mike pence to oversee this situation.
donald trump doesn’t care about who could get this virus.
Vice President Pence falls way short of being a "religious zealot" compared to Obozo - he was always quoting a scripture. You must have missed Crazy Joe's spiritual/religious nonsense yesterday.
LV101 ...
I may be wrong, but I would doubt after the photos taken outside of the churches of them walking in, that, as you call them, Obozo, Crazy Joe or the Orange Man have ever sat through an entire church service.
It's all politics. Political photo ops.
Rub a Dub
i was thinking about this at work the other day, and realized the one positive thing i can truly credit the jws with: .
i have no fear of public speaking.
i was a shy kid, fat, clumsy, with crooked glasses and worse teeth, who wore hand-me-downs in one of the wealthiest counties in all of america, who sat still while classmates got up to salute the flag or recite the pledge of allegiance.
I would agree with some others here that the public speaking thing was a big plus. I gave my first bible reading at 6 years of age standing on a box so I could reach the microphone in front of 60 or 70 people. I read from the book of Jeremiah.
Moving on later to "talk #5" and later instruction talks, asking the audience the questions, and then a few public talks did take away the fear of speaking in front of any group at work, no matter how large the size.
Rub a Dub
