i sat in recently with some relatives for the sunday meeting.
the talk was given by a bethel speaker, who at one point quoted john 20:25.
“but he said to them: “unless i see in his hands the print of the nails and stick my finger into the print of the nails and stick my hand into his side, i will never believe it.”.
Did Jesus die on a cross or a torture stake? Who cares!!
@Davros ......
I could not agree more. I always thought that Jesus sacrifice was his life, not exactly how he died. Would it have made any difference if Pilate had nailed Jesus to his garage instead of a cross or stake? I don't think so. I thought the sacrifice thing was the meaning or purpose of the entire process.
But then religions have to get twisted up in the details.
i hear that all wt payroll personal in the uk are now in full lockdown/sheilding mode until november..
the attack of Trump-of-Magog
@lastmanstanding ...
I really like that translation. I like to read refreshing, modern-day translations.
Then the scripture further continues that God will then put a hook in the jaw bone of that horse's ass.
disfellowship but never, ever announce it.. this new procedure is to be confirmed - anyone else come across it?.
for this record these are jesus' actual instructions in relation to this matter:-.
(matthew 18:15-17) 15 “moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.
Yes I just heard of this new procedure, a bit shocking to say the least
@Mr Finkelstein ...
Yes, I heard about that for brothers involved in fornication.
The lower, hanging down parts are put into a Society-approved container and then quickly removed to reduce the number of future "problems".
Afterwards, it will be up to the local body of elders whether to refer to the person as a brother or a sister. Instead of he or she, our CO suggested it may be best to refer to the person as "it".
In any case, standing up when peeing will be a memory from the past.
look at the new york post online today and watch the videos of mayhem and destruction to the city with fires all over manhattan.
the police vehicles are being destroyed and torched and the rioting just goes on and on.. i regularly went to nyc sometimes once a month for years.
now, who on earth would want to go to this hellhole??.
Rasmussen has Trump at 50% today.
Min ...
You know how the process works. Trump is at 38% one week, 50% the next week, etc etc etc.
It all depends upon 38% or 50% of who you are polling. I do think there were more hidden Trump voters at some point but now with Biden, I think there are a lot of hidden Biden voters who do not necessarily want to raise their hand and say "I'm for Biden". Personally, I think a large number Biden voters are not "for" Biden but against Trump.
Time will tell.
disfellowship but never, ever announce it.. this new procedure is to be confirmed - anyone else come across it?.
for this record these are jesus' actual instructions in relation to this matter:-.
(matthew 18:15-17) 15 “moreover, if your brother commits a sin, go lay bare his fault between you and him alone.
Wouldn't that screw up the shunning process?
If you get DF'd and not know it, that could cause major mental issues.
You may think you are DF'd, then start to talk to yourself, shun yourself, and then get up and leave the room.
elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.
i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.
are we headed towards a dictatorship?
Hey GreatTeacher nice to see you back
@cofty ...
I agree. I liked the book he wrote for children. We used that a lot teaching young ones in the Borg.
elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.
i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.
are we headed towards a dictatorship?
it's not fair to have mail-in ballots with mob rule
@LV101 ...
I guess the Repubs aren't smart enough to do the same thing and "fix" their ballets too.
elections have been held per the us constitution during many difficult times; us civil war, ww i, ww ii, whatever.
i just put on the pro-trump fox news and even they are saying ... oooohhhhhhhhhhhhhhh.. this is really scary.
are we headed towards a dictatorship?
This pandemic which is causing a financial collapse in many countries would be a death blow to just about any politcal leader
@Mr Finkelstein ...
True. In retrospect, the best thing long-term for the Dems is that Hillary lost to Trump. She would never win a second term.
did you notice this?
2020 governing body update #5. https://www.jw.org/en/library/videos/#en/mediaitems/latestvideos/docid-702020307_1_video.
why do they show the black goat in the picture?
I know there are some other elders / ex-elders here and would appreciate any thoughts on creating my own prophesy. I don't want to get DF'd or anything, but the black goat thing just has my mind spinning.
Like the black goat has the feet of a lion or something. Maybe it deceives and misleads those who listen to its voice.
I could come up with dozens of ideas. And then I could try to understand how my own prophesy would be fulfilled.
I just don't want to get into trouble.
prologue.
get out shouted the audience you must be ashamed of yourself.
the crowd was in a hysterical state, every time that we tried to say something we were silenced by the clapping and screams which got louder and louder of the majority of the two hundred people in attendance.
@Paul B ...
That building from the outside looks like one of the units Barry Weiss bought on Storage Wars the other night. He paid $800 for it but found some baseball memorabilia that he ended up selling for over $2900.
Not a bad return on a storage locker ($2900 - 800 = $2100).
