How long will I allow the blasphemy? It isn't up to me to stop anything. I am not even allowed to make my opinions public even here, -------------------- Why is this? Is it because your opinions are not popular? Neither are mine. LOL. I'd just keep offering my opinions, if for no other reason than to p$ss people off. In my experience, some of the self-righteous JWs have become sanctimoniously self-righteous ex-JWs, and they'd be that way regardless of which religion they fled.
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Believer's how long will you allow this blasphemy?
by dawg inas all of you know, i do not believe the bible's divine... but if i did, i find that much of what the society says is outright blasphemy.
notice this insert from the april 15th, wt... you can look it up for yourselves as i'm certain i'm not taking this out of context.
if you believe the bible is the word of god (i find it hard to believe that anyone can take it literal) but if you do, then what about the souls of your family still in?
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FALSE ACCUSATIONS/INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY: DO YOU CARE????
by berylblue ini like to post this from time to time, on various boards -----no, it never goes over well, because people infer things which i am not attempting to convey.
i am merely pointing out that sometimes, when we are soooooooooo damned certain about the guilt of a certain person or persons.... we are wrong.
no, th case in the hyperlink below does not, on the surface, resemble the mormon case.
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berylblue
I've thought about this as well, and I'd rather be a rape victim. At least then the onus would be on me to overcome the pain and I could do it as a free woman. When you're falsely accused, even if charges are dropped, your future is in the hands of closed minded, two-digit IQ myopic idiots who will usually assume you WERE guilty and somehow got off. You can lose your job, money, everything - and, depending on age, location, other obligations (such as being unable to move from the scene of the crime against you), you may never get any of these things back. Of course, the predictable rage against me for not being a bleeding heart toward "abused" women would be funny were it not pathetic. I'm a voice in the wilderness. Thank god I don't give a rat's a$$ about what anyone here thinks of me.
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FALSE ACCUSATIONS/INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY: DO YOU CARE????
by berylblue ini like to post this from time to time, on various boards -----no, it never goes over well, because people infer things which i am not attempting to convey.
i am merely pointing out that sometimes, when we are soooooooooo damned certain about the guilt of a certain person or persons.... we are wrong.
no, th case in the hyperlink below does not, on the surface, resemble the mormon case.
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berylblue
Terry, if someone you loved had been falsely accused, and his life destroyed, you wouldn't think much about tuning it down. I'm assuming that's what you meant. So don't expect me to be tuning it down any time soon. With some persons, you need to hit them over the head constantly and with force. Even then, they still won't get it.
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FALSE ACCUSATIONS/INNOCENT UNTIL PROVEN GUILTY: DO YOU CARE????
by berylblue ini like to post this from time to time, on various boards -----no, it never goes over well, because people infer things which i am not attempting to convey.
i am merely pointing out that sometimes, when we are soooooooooo damned certain about the guilt of a certain person or persons.... we are wrong.
no, th case in the hyperlink below does not, on the surface, resemble the mormon case.
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berylblue
I like to post this from time to time, on various boards -----No, it never goes over well, because people infer things which I am not attempting to convey. I am merely pointing out that sometimes, when we are SOOOOOOOOOO damned certain about the guilt of a certain person or persons.... we are wrong. No, th case in the hyperlink below does not, on the surface, resemble the Mormon case. The growing hysteria, however, DOES.
In addition, false accusations in this country abound. In divorces, it's so common it has a name: SAID (Sexual Allegations in Divorce). Are you mad at your ex? Want to make his life a living hell? Want sole custody of the kids? TELL CPS HE BEATS YOU - or better yet, that he BEATS and RAPES THE KIDS! Not only will you get custody, you'll get ALL HIS MONEY and HE WILL BE IN JAIL!!!!! I have actually heard women TALK ABOUT ACCUSING THEIR EXES OF HORRIBLE THINGS SO AS TO GET CUSTODY OF THE KIDS. HONEY, you don't DESERVE TO BE A MOTHER if you MAKE UP LIES SUCH AS THAT. In fact, you deserve to be in PRISON if you falsely accuse your ex of such heinous crimes.
Quite frankly, I am dismayed at the sheer number of persons willing to believe the worst about another human without any facts on which to base her opinion. It's so easy to assume that someone arrested for rape was guilty - because we need to believe the culprit was caught. Because we need to believe we are better than the accused.
But what if there was no rape? What if it was all a lie? How would you feel knowing that someone spent 20 years in prison for a crime he didn't commit - and YOU wholeheartedly supported that sentence?
IN ADDITION, I ENDORSE PRISON SENTENCES FOR PROVEN FALSE ACCUSERS OF SENTENCES AT LEAST AS LONG AS THE SENTENCE THE FALSELY ACCUSED PERSON WOULD HAVE GOTTEN. Throw some of these falsely accusing women in prison and maybe others will have second thoughts.
It behooves all of us, when faced with a situation where emotions are quick to bubble over - to consider all the facts before denouncing someone as a polygamist, child abuser, pedophile, rapist, etc.
I realize mine is not a popular viewpoint. But I feel I must speak out every so often.
The information is all over the internet about false accusations. It's up to you to care enough to research the facts. And trust me, you WILL begin to care ----- when it's someone YOU love who is the accused.Kelly Michaels' nightmare began on Apil 30, 1985 when a four-year-old boy who was a student of hers at the Wee Care Day Nursery said, when a nurse put a thermometer in his rectum, "That's what my teacher does to me at nap time at school." When asked what he meant, the boy replied, "Her takes my temperature."
That one comment--easily capable of an innocent interpretation--began a criminal investigation that would lead to Michaels being charged with 131 counts of sexual abuse against twenty children. She allegedly raped and assaulted her three to five-year-old charges with knives, spoons, and Lego blocks. Prosecutors also contended she licked peanut butter off of the children's genitals, played piano in the nude, and made the kids drink her urine. All of this abuse, according to prosecutors, somehow went unnoticed by other teachers, parents, or administrators during the seven months she worked at the Wee Care Nursery. Michaels, age twenty-six, would be convicted of 115 counts of abuse, and in 1988 sentenced to forty-seven years in prison.
The blame for this travesty of justice must rest largely on investigators and prosecutors. "Believe the children" became the motto for the trial.
Division of Youth and Family Service Investigators, convinced of Michaels' guilt and determined to uncover the full extent of her treachery, repeatedly questioned children about possible sexual abuse. Most children said at first that they liked Kelly and that she did nothing wrong. Investigators called this "the denial phase." The investigators pressed on, pulling out implements and anatomically correct dolls, telling them that other kids had revealed Kelly's misdeeds, telling them that Kelly was in jail. Kids want to please adults. They are easily moved to change answers by suggestive questions. Eventually the kids provided the answers investigators were looking--indeed, hoping--to hear.
Parents were given "symptom charts," and asked to report behavior that might be indicative of past sexual abuse--things like bedwetting and nightmares. Not surprisingly, symptoms were found.
In the atmosphere of intimidation and moral hysteria, those that should have come forward to defend Michaels did not. Other teachers said later that they believed expressions of support for Michaels might have led to the filing of charges against them as well.
Dorothy Rabinowitz, writing about the Michaels case in Harper's Magazine, offered this reflection on the case:
We are a society that, every fifty years or so, is afflicted by some paroxysm of virtue--an orgy of self-cleansing through which evil of one kind or another is cast out. From the witch-hunts of Salem to the communist hunts of the McCarthy era to the current shrill fixation on child abuse, there runs a common thread of moral hysteria. After the McCarthy era, people would ask: But how could it have happened? How could the presumption of innocence have been abandoned wholesale? How did large and powerful institutions acquiesce as congressional investigators ran roughshod over civil liberties--all in the name of a war on communists? How was it possible to believe that subversives lurked behind every library door, in every radio station, that every two-bit actor who had belonged to the wrong political organization posed a threat to the nation's security?
Years from now people doubtless will ask the same questions about our present era--a time when the most improbable charges of abuse find believers; when it is enough only to be accused by anonymous sources to be hauled off by investigators; a time when the hunt for child abusers has become a national pathology.
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Renegade Mormons - Abuse of Children- Broken Bones -Many Girls Pregnant
by flipper inhow long will religions claiming to worship god - tolerate the abuse of children , and try to hide it ?
catholics, jehovah's witnesses, mormons - my wife and i discussed it and i'm starting to feel that there is something about the stunted views of religions about sex in general that creates these monsters of sexual child abuse !
do we not just hear about the non-religious child abusers ?
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berylblue
I want the facts. I am not sympathetic with the FLDS lifestyle and If there is abuse, I want to see charges and punishment. I want the people inside to get help with the conflict they have living with the real world - but at this point I'm not willing to say that some of what I'm hearing in the media isn't spin. I think there is a lot more going on underneath that we aren't even hearing about so I'm waiting for all the players to put their cards on the table for all of us to see. sammieswife.
Kudos to you. Not many persons want the facts. They prefer witchunts. I've only two words for them:
This is in no way defending abuse of anyone, so please don't even try to go there.
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Times when you were judgmental as a J-Dub?
by superman inwe all like to point the finger at other j-dubs who are extremely judgmental (and most of them are) but before many of you saw the real light, we were all just as bad as some of the others.
ive got one example about myself.
when i was a more hard core j-dub a friend of mine who wasnt baptized (however raised in it) but studying decided to grow a beard.
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berylblue
I was extremely judgmental when it came to persons who were not loving, were not open minded, did not help out the needy and sick, criticized others while never taking a look at their own flaws
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Latest Witness comments about no more Bookstudy- Rejoicing and happy????
by Witness 007 ini've asked afew witnesses at work and around town about no more bookstudy.........they are all so relieved!
one elder with four kids said..."it will make things alot easier, with rushing home from work, the society understands our needs.
"......another brother said: "it's great, now we can go to the cinema on half price tuesday's!
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berylblue
Yeah, always loved the "preparing you for Armegeddon" comments. First of all - please. Second of all - please. If I'd have had to go through anything with that group of closed minded, me-first, two digit-IQ neanderthals...
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Blessed Beltane!!
by crazyblondeb injust wanted to say blessed beltane to all here!!.
beltane -- holiday details and history.
author: christina aubin [a witchvox sponsor].
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berylblue
Thanks! My daughter is Wiccan and I forgot all about this one! I guess that's why she's at her shore house right now, rather than in her other house. I'll call her and send an e-card.
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What will you do when the Great Tribulation Begins?
by Malkiel ini've always wanted to ask this question to those that have decided to leave the organization.. what will you do when the great tribulation begins?.
right now folks, a lot is happening in the political world.. gordon brown (prime miniter of england) last week gave a speech to the un stating that it is time for the un to step in and solve the world's problems, (specifically mentioning the economy and hunger crisis worldwide.).
barrack obama is shaping up to be the next president, a fellow who sure knows how to persuade and lead great crowds.
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berylblue
Because, obviously, I've nothing better to do. I've run out of sex partners. Anyone game?
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What will you do when the Great Tribulation Begins?
by Malkiel ini've always wanted to ask this question to those that have decided to leave the organization.. what will you do when the great tribulation begins?.
right now folks, a lot is happening in the political world.. gordon brown (prime miniter of england) last week gave a speech to the un stating that it is time for the un to step in and solve the world's problems, (specifically mentioning the economy and hunger crisis worldwide.).
barrack obama is shaping up to be the next president, a fellow who sure knows how to persuade and lead great crowds.
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berylblue
Yo, AK Jeff - we both turn 53 in August!!! How cool is that! (as though there aren't a gazillion others turning 53 in August).