I remember an article on wife battering in an Awake/Wt. It was the cover story. Seems it was about 1-3 years ago and the article talked about how this unbelieving man had beat and abused his wife for some 25 years of marriage but he eventually listened to her and became a JW. I was so mad when I read that article I could have spit nails, to think that they could actually think that this was good. Their family stories always end like "once upon a time" and all ends well. What a piece of crock. If someone can find that article please post it here.
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JW Father Kills Self and 12-year-old Son
by fjtoth inthe following story appears this morning in the south florida sun-sentinel at:.
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/southflorida/sfl-cmurdsui26aug26,1,2987431.story?coll=sfla-home-headlines.
fort lauderdale police suspect father killed son, then self in home shooting.
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E Watchman
by livingagain inhas anyone read articles by e watchman?
what do you make of him?
he seems to think the wts is wrong on a lot of things and speaks strongly against their teachings and policies but still beleives that they are god's chosen people.
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Has anyone read articles by e watchman? What do you make of him? He seems to think the WTS is wrong on a lot of things and speaks strongly against their teachings and policies but still beleives that they are God's chosen people. I wonder does the WTS moniter his site? Has any of you asked a question on his question post site? Come on don't be basful answer up!
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Friends
by livingagain ini was in a car acident about 9 months ago and the lawyer handling my case sent me a form today to list my friends who could state what my condition was before the accident and after.
problem with that is i was a jw for close to 30 years and have been fading for about a year.
i couldn't get them to do that unless i made a come back to the meetings and i am too glad to be free to ever go back.
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I was in a car acident about 9 months ago and the lawyer handling my case sent me a form today to list my friends who could state what my condition was before the accident and after. Problem with that is I was a JW for close to 30 years and have been fading for about a year. I couldn't get them to do that unless I made a come back to the meetings and I am too glad to be free to ever go back. I will have to tell him that I was in a cult and don't have any friends I can list. I wonder whe will think of this? I am not that close to my family either seeing/speaking with them rarely so they couldn't help either. Workmates can't help because I only worked the job a short while before the accident so they didn't really know me yet. Do you think this a sad situation to find oneself in at 53 years of age?
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e-Watchman
by livingagain inwho is this e -watchman?
seems he want to be a jw but have his say too.
has any of you read from his site?
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Who is this e -Watchman? Seems he want to be a JW but have his say too. Has any of you read from his site?
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Blood issue conscience matter?
by livingagain indoes anyone know where the wt ever said that taking blood was a conscience matter?
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livingagain
Does anyone know where the WT ever said that taking blood was a conscience matter?
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Comments?Elders Visit Again
by livingagain inabout 2/3 weeks ago the elders came to visit.
got rid of them pretty much didn't expect to see them again because i told them i was moving in a couple of months.i didn't plan on talking too much to them as i was studying for a test.
anyway it ended up being a long visit.
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livingagain
About 2/3 weeks ago the elders came to visit. Got rid of them pretty much didn't expect to see them again because I told them I was moving in a couple of months.I didn't plan on talking too much to them as I was studying for a test. Anyway it ended up being a long visit. Now here is where you on here come in. I talked to them about the blood issue and how JW's view it as a law of God not to take blood in any form.So I said why now can they have blood fractions? He said that it still is God's law not to take blood but that it is whole blood, and fractions are not whole blood and that when they are separated from whole blood they are another substance altogether. I said even if so fractions are derived from whole blood and still would be a by product of whole blood and that would seem to be circumventing the law to get around it. Then he said that blood is a conscience mattter and I said since when? He said it has always been the case. He pointed to the elder with him and said you see he will decide on what is good for he and his family on blood and I make the decision for what is good for me and my family because it is up to us what we decide on the matter according to our own conscience. I said if it is a conscience matter why do you need a liason committee then? each person will be operating according to their own conscience. I said have not people been D/F for receiving blood? He says you can't be D/F for acting on your conscience.
Is this man a lunatic or is it me? Where did he get the information that blood is a conscience matter? Where did he get that when blood is separated into fractions that it is now a different substance. Is there something I missed?
Needless to say he said the Dateline show was all a bunch of lies, that he personally knew of some of the information and it was all missrepresented. He said they mentioned on Dateline that JW's refused contact for the show but they failed to mention the letter that was sent to Dateline. I said seems like they were hiding why didn't they go on the show and read the letter or at least read the letter on videotapeand send the tape. He said their is not a problem in JW's with abuse and he knows how they are told to handle the case and it is never hush hush. He said do you believe it is written somewhere that we are told to keep it quiet? I said not written but unspoken.
They may want to come back because I told them I did care to discuss whether I still considered or wanted to be a JW. I said I have issues and am doing research to get the facts to resolve these issues ,and it would be irresponsible to make life decisions on anything but the facts. So we'll see if they return.
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Elder Visit
by livingagain inwell i just had my elder visit here in my temporary job location town.
stood on the door stoop was not allowing them in my home uninvited.
my family had their visit on the weekend while i was down there(260 miles away) visiting.
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Well I just had my Elder visit here in my temporary job location town. Stood on the door stoop was not allowing them in my home uninvited. My family had their visit on the weekend while I was down there(260 miles away) visiting. Elders asked me was I going to the meetings, and I said no, asked could they ask why I said I did not care to discuss it. Also asked did I still consider myself or did I still want to be one of JW's, also answered I did not care to discuss it. One mentioned a scripture about Jehovah being camped all around(IChronicles16:9 he said it was) and asked me how did that scripture makes me feeI with the world so uncertain, that it made him very feel good. I've been working and living here temporarily for 11 months and never got a visit from any one at this hall. It is a shame that Elders allow themselves to be the henchmen for headquarters.Well so much for that I don't expect them back becaus I told them I would be moving back to my permanent address in a couple of months. What is this big thing that they want to know if you still want to be or consider yourself a JW since they asked my family the same question there?
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Elders Visit
by livingagain intwo elders came by the house to speak with family on saturday afternoon.
one talked to my son who was washing his car( elder said son pretty much told him to get lost so he rang door bell and knocked until my daughter (he got same response) answered the door.
asked to speak with me, the mother, but daughter told him i was not interested.
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livingagain
Just trying to fade away since about August.I started sharing what I learned first with hubby and gradually to two kids. They had already saw through a lot of it but was afraid to tell us.I beleive in time if we don't go back they will have spies to watch for wrongdoing to haul us in to JC. Neither of the 5 have a kind spirit but are vindictive. Always showed the petty side of them. Very jealous and petty because my husband made a lot of money (or so they insinuated) and we builded a large house and bought a so called luxury car. Of course they did not think I was a submissive wife but pushed ahead. But who cares? Right? I will never allow them to have that kind of authority over me again. Thanks for the Sunday's WT update.
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Elders Visit
by livingagain intwo elders came by the house to speak with family on saturday afternoon.
one talked to my son who was washing his car( elder said son pretty much told him to get lost so he rang door bell and knocked until my daughter (he got same response) answered the door.
asked to speak with me, the mother, but daughter told him i was not interested.
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livingagain
Two elders came by the house to speak with family on Saturday afternoon. One talked to my son who was washing his car( elder said son pretty much told him to get lost so he rang door bell and knocked until my daughter (he got same response) answered the door. Asked to speak with me, the mother, but daughter told him I was not interested. My husband was in back of house working on his truck and second elder skirted down there to talk to him. Seems that without going to the meeting they needed to tell us there will be no holy spirit for this family. I don't think they will give up because we were a very prominent family in the hall and husband was Elder until resignation in September.
On Sunday morning at 8:00 am a third elder phoned and hubby answered phone getting invite to meeting again, seemed to think the WT lesson was tailor made for family that all needed to hear, something about despondency.
Someone please tell me what the WT study was about yesterday. Please! Please!
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Molestors slip betweent he cracks...AGAIN!
by Quotes ini don't want to bring anyone down, and i know it is important to hope for the best, etc.
etc.. but.... why, oh why, couldn't the cbc fifth estate program airing this week be airing during a "slow news week"??????.
all the news is about iraq, usa, dr. hans blix, weapons inspectors, yada yada yada -- not that those topics are not important, but i am really afraid that this much bigger news story will greatly drown out the very important story airing on cbc.
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livingagain
I missed this! When is this program on and how can we get to see it in the US?