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livingagain
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Some will go back
by JH ini would like to know how many people here are thinking of going back to the hall if the elders go and visit them.
we had stories of people telling the elders that they had enough and wanted to get out.
on the other hand, i am sure a few will go back, but we will not hear their stories as much because they fear the reaction of this board.
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phone call from witness
by livingagain ini got a phone call from a jw i met when i moved here 10 months ago.
she always sat by herself in the hall and looked so out of it.
well one meeting i mentioned clients and she asked me what kind of clients and i went on th tell her i worked with mental health.
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I got a phone call from a jw I met when i moved here 10 months ago. She always sat by herself in the hall and looked so out of it. Well one meeting I mentioned clients and she asked me what kind of clients and I went on th tell her I worked with mental health. She wanted to know how she could get an appointment with the clinic, which led me to invite her to lunch and found through conversation that she had recently come to the congregation because she had left an abusive marriage the same as me. A month or so later I missed seeing her and no one at the hall even noticed she wasn't attending, so i went to the hall where she told me she was from in the next town and there she was with the husband. She had told me some awful abuse stories, him pulling a gun on her more than once, and she left because he had put a knife to her throat,her adult sons intervened and she felt for their safety so she left. Well, when I saw her at the hall in her town I could see she was miserable. She told me the elders said he was coming to the hall, studying and was doing good so she should come back so she did.
Well, I hadn't heard from her in months and out of the blue she called me this morning wondering if she should have stayed gone because it makes it harder when you go back and things are really no better, you just fool your self. Anyway,she talked about David giving help to Nabal and then he refused to help David so David was going to kill him but Nabalwife Abigail intervened and stopped David. Now she said that no matter how bad Nabal treated Abigail she gave no thought to leaving him so she should be like her and do the same and Armageddon will be here soon so she just needs to endure. Can't believe i talked the same kind of nonsense too.
I got started and tried to tell her everthing from A-Z on what I've learned about Jw's, told her I quit attending meetings months ago and was now free to make my own decisions and was not going to allow JW"s to rule my life any more. She started rambling on about listening to the faithful and discreet slave and this is Jehovah's orginization and a whole bunch of mindless JW stuff. I finally told her that in the end no orginization is going to save anyone. She made up an excuse to get off the phone when I started talking about JW's sounded scared of me said she had to go. I know I piled it on too thick too soon, I wish I could have slowly eased into it over time, now I don't think she will talk to me again because she is scared.
I see now just how mind controlled we really were I wonder will she tell our conversation to the JW's and I get a visit because I have not heard from them since I quit going to the hall in August. I wanted to just fade away but if not so be it.
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Birthday Celebration
by livingagain insenator trent lot is in hot water over his statements.
where did it happen?
at a birthday party!
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livingagain
Senator Trent Lot is in hot water over his statements. Where did it happen? At a BIRTHDAY PARTY! Think the JW's noted that?
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Birthday Today!
by livingagain inposted this in jw news and events but meant to post it here.. please read and give your comments.
i have been on this new job for the past 10 months and when i went there i was still a loyal jw and told them i did not celebrate holidays and birthdays.
being a wt slave for the past 27 years just recently (4/5 months) took off the physical chains but still have the mental shackles on to a degree.
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Posted this in JW News and Events but meant to post it here.
Please read and give your comments. I have been on this new job for the past 10 months and when i went there i was still a loyal JW and told them I did not celebrate holidays and birthdays. Being a WT slave for the past 27 years just recently (4/5 months) took off the physical chains but still have the mental shackles on to a degree. Anyway my boss mentioned my birthday yesterday to me and i said i don't celebrate it but this year i am thinking of doing so. Listen to these words of a wordly woman! She said i don't celebrate mine either as far as parties or anything but i take the time to thank God that he has allowed me to live another year and think how i might use the life he has given me to make improvements for the future and to be of service him and others. Boy I thought that was unique and from a wordly woman at that! So today i am celebrating 53 years of life and FREEDOM! NO LONGER A SLAVE PHYSICALLY AND WORKING ON MENTALLY! Thanks for listening.
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Birthday Today!
by livingagain inplease read this and give me your comments.
i have been on this new job for the past 10 months and when i went there i told them all i did not celebrate holidays and birthdays.
being a wt slave for the past 27 years i just recently(4-5months) took the physical chains off but still have the mental shackles on to a degree.
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Please read this and give me your comments. I have been on this new job for the past 10 months and when i went there I told them all I did not celebrate holidays and birthdays. Being a WT slave for the past 27 years I just recently(4-5months) took the physical chains off but still have the mental shackles on to a degree. Anyway my boss mentioned my birthday yesterday to me and I said I don't celebrate it but this year I am thinking of doing so. Listen to this, she said I don't celebrate mine either as far as parties or anything but I take the time to thank God that he has allowed me to live another year and how I might use the life he has given me to make improvements in it and to to be of service to others. Boy! I thought that was unique. So today I am celebrating 53 years of life and FREEDOM! NO LONGER A SLAVE PHYSICALLY AND WORKING ON MENTALLY! Thanks for Listening.
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livingagain
I think printing is large part of income for WTBS, but i believe they have their hand in much more. What favors(money) did they curry by linking up with UN? I don't think we know the half yet on this bunch, they are as dirty as can be.Corporate heads in th news lately tell the story. Seem to recall an illustration they had in one of the books talking about a buisnessman seeming to be good upfront but crooked behind the scenes. "Love of money is the root of all sorts of injurious things" according to their NWT. All fits them well to my idea.
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HAS THIS PLACE HELPED YOU?
by minimus insince so many post and chat here,and most here do not go to meetings, have you found this board to be a place that can help and refresh you?
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livingagain
Tremendously! This board has helped me to come alive. I don't post regular but I read your posts almost every day and feel I have a bond with you that I never had being JW. It seems so genuine here where as before it was like living in a fairy tale world where everything, every problem always ended "happily therafter," I was so sick and tired of reading those experiences in the mags, never reality, "Living Forever Was Just A Dream" because I never felt I could measure up.
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Qualities To Acquire In Entrepreneurial Business
by Celtic inwhat qualities do you feel are important if you want to make a name for yourself in business?.
is it wise to be the nice guy, who does everything with fairness in mind or is it better to be a hardnosed, lying, manipulative bastard?.
if you were to consider going into business for yourself, which 'qualities' would you employ to gain maximum business profits?.
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livingagain
Food at the proper time(heard that before). I have always wanted to own a gift shop, thought I,d better not get too attached to this system though, you know the old drill. Now I am finally in the process of getting it all together. Thanks for the tips! Has anyone had any experience with getting help through SBA for funds? Let me know if you have, or any good sources to raise capital to start a new business, have some funds but need more to get going. I too believe believe being honest and fair is the best policy but I learned that first from my mother who gave birth to me and (not mother orginization.)
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Celebration of Life
by livingagain ini went to a funeral in a church this past weekend.
the first time i have been in a church in 27 years, because of fear instilled by the wtbs.
this was a dear friend of mine, she was well liked, many, many people at the funeral.
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I went to a funeral in a church this past weekend. The first time I have been in a church in 27 years, because of fear instilled by the WTBS. This was a dear friend of mine, she was well liked, many, many people at the funeral. I went in and sat with the family members during the service, I am so glad that I found this board because thanks to you I had the courage to go inside the church and CELEBRATE the life of my friend. It was not turned into some cold unfeeling witness for the family as JW's do at funerals. I have known these people for years and have tried to witness to them and they knew that I had in the past come only to the graveside of family and friends so I know they were surprised when I came inside, but they all hugged and made me feel welcome, no guilt trips. I thought that demons would be lurking out of the walls but no such thing, it was a wonderful service if it is allowed to say such, very moving,great singing and lively music, like the funerals in Louisiana. I am amazed everyday when I just take the time to notice and see that there are good people out there, glad my blinders are coming off. Thanks for letting me share this!
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finally got the nerve
by livingagain ini have been reading posts here for several months, which has helped me to keep from going insane.
my doubts came when i finally got the nerve to leave a bad marriage, why did i stay so long.
because i was ashamed and really scared of what "jehovah" would think of me.
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livingagain
I have been reading posts here for several months, which has helped me to keep from going insane. My doubts came when I finally got the nerve to leave a bad marriage, why did i stay so long. Because I was ashamed and really scared of what "Jehovah" would think of me. I felt I would be letting him down, but one day I just said If I get life or not I don't care anymore I have to get out of this miserable marriage, so I packed and left. Hubby knew I had had enough and was leaving so told the brothers and they came over to see us but I had nothing to say to them, treated them nicely but gave no info to them.
When I got to my new city I had time to surf the net and found this site among others, 1914 lie about knocked me off my feet, then the UN was a blow I couldn't deal with so I called the UN to talk to someone there, I just had to know if this was the truth so had them fax me info letter, you see I felt I couldn't trust what was on the internet.
Needless to say I am all over the page with my feelings from scared to mad to anxious, I don't have anyone to confide in, still going to the hall but sporadically the last 2 months, can't hardly stand to be there. Was there 3 weeks ago on Sunday and the speaker gave talk on staying loyal to the orginization, said why would you want to go outside because the only true love is in this orginization, i got so mad i started to leave at that moment but managed to hold it together until the end of talk but when song was on i exited, plans was to stay for WT study but couldn't handle it. I just can't take going and faking it often.When I moved here 6 months ago I was still staunch witness, made all the meetings, did my quota in service etc. Now I try to go out of town almost every weekend and work late on meeting nights to have excuse not to go. I haven't been in 3 weeks so I am planning on going Sunday to show my face, they'll all be asking me where I've been that they have missed me. I wish I had known what I know now when I moved here I would never have gone to the meetings regular nad never would have allowed myself to get close to them. Somehow I have got to deal with this, I hate going to the hall with a passion, I just want to slowly fade away and not give away my reasons so as to be D/F/DA. I just don't know how much I can stand. I don't have any friends in this new city, and am scared to make any with "people of the world", boy they have done a number on me. I want to live again after 27 years of someone else doing my living for me.
Your posts are what I look for on a daily basis, I'm so glad that I found you. Thanks for being here and for letting me share.
Sincerely, livingagain