I have an unusual question.
And it is ... who actually owns and runs this site?
With no ads ... how does it keep going?
no-zombie
i have an unusual question.. and it is ... who actually owns and runs this site?.
with no ads ... how does it keep going?.
no-zombie.
I have an unusual question.
And it is ... who actually owns and runs this site?
With no ads ... how does it keep going?
no-zombie
slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
- this thread is your if you want it..
Let calm down a bit and consider the facts,
Firstly the people western world is quickly becoming more and more secular, with the power and influence of large churches long gone. And I'm strongly of the belief that the situation in Muslim, Hindu and Buddhist countries the situation is much the same, held together by custom rather than spirituality... which means less and less people interest in the BS and obligations the Watchtower is offering.
Secondly, as I've mentioned before, the western world is aging rapidly with countries like Russia and Japan actually worried about their actual existence as a nation. Which again underscores the rapidly falling conversion ratios due to less and less children (from both inside the congregations and outside).
Thirdly, the global economy has not swung out of the funk that its in and there not much hope that it will soon. In fact, the whole world is in a depressional spiral with cash values, stocks and properties viewed now as over-valued. And the second and third worlds aren't doing any better. The lesson here ... money for the organization is going to get tighter and tighter, guaranteed.
And we haven't even begun to think the other financially draining issues others have mentioned. And they must be bleeding money because even running a TV empire without ads will sent you broke.
The summery here is that the Society will not reemerge like a Phoenix thanks to the new blue paint job and 21st century bling. No, it's day has past and will continue to contract. When it falls apart, no one know. But one thing we must remember, the more changes we see in the Organization, the more desperate the Governing Body must be. Because changes costs money, it creates uncertainty and it generally never fixes the root problems anyway.
slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
- this thread is your if you want it..
My copy of the rNWT, which is made in Japan is glue backed with a fake material binding in the spine. Which give the impression that its been sown. You can peel it off with your finger nail.
slimboyfat, it appears that wts is going, gone digital.
can you show your view what is wts next move after they are completely gone from kings county and settled in warwick?
- this thread is your if you want it..
Its clear to everyone here, that money (or more exactly the lack of it) will force the hand of the Organization to make decisions that even they don't like. The Governing Body might not be that bright but even they would know that the gig will be up, if cash flow dies. So i'm guessing that at some time, they MUST put the financial squeeze on the rank and file somehow ... and I can't see any other way, other than some form of a tithe that western countries will have to pay. Whether at a congregational or at the publisher level, who knows. But I reckon it will be linked digital downloads because they have nothing else to sell.
as we have seen, the society has so smoothly rolled out the rebranding of the organization in just a few short years!.
(in fact, i remember a thread post here a few years back, where it was mentioned that all halls are going to get the jw.org signs on them.
it was initially laughed off and doubted) https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/279409/jw-org-signs-put-on-all-kingdom-halls-new-directive.
Have any Kingdom Halls actually had that name actually removed? The one my family goes too hasn't?
speaking from my own experience and that of my family of wife and two now adult sons do not believe that prayers to jehovah /god are answered .. so it must also be true of all other religions and their believers also.. my wife and i were jw`s for 33 years and and i don`t believe anyone prayed harder than my wife and i at various trials we faced during those times in those 33 years.. we may as well have been like the present day jews who pray to a brick wall .
This whole subject is one that completely does my head in. I just cant take it when I hear that that some poor pioneer prayed for some cheap to shoes (or a tank of fuel) continue witnessing in and got them ...while nothing was done for the witnesses that were been gang raped or chopped up with machetes in places like Rwanda or Malawi. Was it because the African prayers were a bit short (cut off you could say) ... or is it because shoes or petrol is more valuable to Jehovah than peoples lives?
just like after decades of memorial partakers declining and now reversed.
this information age might reverse the trend of jw membership.
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Chook ... sorry, perhaps I've misunderstood your post. In any case, I'm sure that what ever our Popes in Warwick will do or try ... it ultimately will have no impact on the collapsing number of the Brotherhood because of the biological forces occurring around us. The only thing they can do, though ... is speed up this decline by their stubborn refusal to grasp the idea that more and more people know that the society is just another high maintenance man-made religion ... and refusing to made meaningful changes to lighten the load from the rank and file.
just like after decades of memorial partakers declining and now reversed.
this information age might reverse the trend of jw membership.
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With deep respect to Chook ... but there is absolutely zero chance that the Organization will grow ... absolutely zero. Its going to fall and begin falling very rapidly. And its due to only one thing ... the age demographics of the western world. We all know that the age profile of the Organization is about 10 years older than the local populations and when coupled with the fact of the low birth rate of Witnesses, it goes to underscore the current reality of the very real population decline. Don't believe me ... go look inside any Kingdom Hall in Europe or Australia ... and see that it's all ready just another a senior citizens club.
i've always been confused as to what the discrepancy is between the phrases "spirit directed/spirit led" and "inspired".
in the february 2017 watchtower study article, paragraph 12 says:.
12 the governing body is neither inspired nor infallible.
I thought about this issue a lot in the beginning. And the conclusion I ultimately came up with is that ... while the Governing Body says that they are spirit directed, in practice they expected everyone to view what they say as spirit inspired.
so recently, after having a conversation with a jehovah's witness, i started wondering about how jws define the term "apostate.
" officially, every elder would tell you that an apostate is one who leaves the jehovah's witness faith.
but did anyone else notice that this is not how they use the word colloquially—that they're sort of dishonest about it?.
The Organizational view of apostasy is deliberately quite broad. However, as Shepherless mentioned ... apostasy is generally viewed as occurring when a person proclaims the complete abandonment of his faith for another (or none in some cases) ... where as a heretic is a person who proclaims his or her disagreement with a established church primary teaching and does not want to recant.