elders will be doing a shepharding call in 10 minutes...why we have not attended meetings in so long.
i want nothing to do with the organization anymore....pray for me that i can keep my strength against them!
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JW's tend to do more "encouraging" to apostates than their fellow brothers and sisters. They are much more focused on the negative things in life than the positive.
How important is the memorial....what do you all do about it? Do you not go, or do you go and suffer through it?
elders will be doing a shepharding call in 10 minutes...why we have not attended meetings in so long.
i want nothing to do with the organization anymore....pray for me that i can keep my strength against them!
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Southland,
Good question and I do not mind you asking. If my husband was to ask if I was visitng any JW related sites on the internet, I would have to tell him. I visit the sites while he is sitting here at the same table as me. But I definately do not say anyhting such as. "Look at what this has to say." or "Read this."
He told me the other day, "Jehovha's Witnesses are the only religion to have apostates."
I replied, "Yeah, but apostates in general are not against Jehovah, they are against the organization."
That shut him up for the time being.
first time in over a year...3rd time in 2 years!.
my husband went out in service yesterday...and relayed the following story to me when he got home.. .
going from door to door....they were all "not at homes", so they were combing the neighborhood rather quickly looking for people at home...suspicious activity...having people going from door to door that quickly.. .
First time in over a year...3rd time in 2 years!
My husband went out in service yesterday...and relayed the following story to me when he got home.
Going from door to door....they were all "not at homes", so they were combing the neighborhood rather quickly looking for people at home...suspicious activity...having people going from door to door that quickly.
The police showed up in the territory they were working and turned on their big red and blue lights. Talk with my husband and let them continue the "ministry work".
Well, today is Sunday, and husband is not going to meeting today. (GOOD!) I anticipated the service thing yesterday was just an offering of peace to get the elders off of his back for awhile.
Anyone care to share any "police" stories from the Kingdom Hall or out in Service that they have experienced?
where is the love that the societyclaims is amongst it's people?
i began studying january 2001. i had met a jw man that i truly fell in love with and found that i would at least look into the religion to see if it was for me.
i began studying with his sister, till she consciously no longer felt that she could continue studying with me, due to the fact that she did not approve of her brother dating me, since i was not a jw.
First time in over a year...3rd time in 2 years!
My husband went out in service yesterday...and relayed the following story to me when he got home.
Going from door to door....they were all "not at homes", so they were combing the neighborhood rather quickly looking for people at home...suspicious activity...having people going from door to door that quickly.
The police showed up in the territory they were working and turned on their big red and blue lights. Talk with my husband and let them continue the "ministry work".
Well, today is Sunday, and husband is not going to meeting today. (GOOD!) I anticipated the service thing yesterday was just an offering of peace to get the elders off of his back for awhile.
how to use this index (1930-1985).
in view of the many years covered, the material indexed some decades ago should be viewed in the light of proverbs 4:18: "the path of the righteous ones is like the bright light that is getting lighter and lighter until the day is firmly established.".
a lot of the real truth about the wts i have learned through their own publications.
Their 99 WT cd has all Watchtower publications...clear back to 1950. Pretty hard for them to get the info back now that hey have distributed all this info via cd. Also they have nearly almost every book, KM, publication written since 1950 on the same cd.
elders will be doing a shepharding call in 10 minutes...why we have not attended meetings in so long.
i want nothing to do with the organization anymore....pray for me that i can keep my strength against them!
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HUGE QUESTION!!!
My husband and I are just onthe verge of starting a debate. I have found in a couple of WT articles that only baptized believers have an unrestricted privilege to prayer. That prayer is restricted priviledge. So, basically, as an unbaptized person, if I do not want to join the JW's and get baptized....I will not be heard in prayer.
Now the question: Where can I find in the Bible that baptism is or is not a requirement to be heard in prayer or to be saved eternally?
i think jws should have to work on paid holidays.
i work with 3 of them & they even accept the annual holiday bonus as a gift from the company.....hmmmmm.
what do you all think about this.
The JW's exception to every rule is measured by their "concscience", that the society trains for them! They believe that something cannot be contradictory if it is decided by their own personal conscience!
Edited by - jacqueline on 25 January 2003 13:58:50
where is the love that the societyclaims is amongst it's people?
i began studying january 2001. i had met a jw man that i truly fell in love with and found that i would at least look into the religion to see if it was for me.
i began studying with his sister, till she consciously no longer felt that she could continue studying with me, due to the fact that she did not approve of her brother dating me, since i was not a jw.
I most definately would not want to get hooked up with yet a different religion's viewpoints that their religion is the "only right religion." !! ha ha!
Good points you all have.
I just feel like a damn donkey who has sat on her rump and said "No more...not moving a muscle, you can beat or do whatever you want...but I am not budging."
But most importantly, I do love Jehovah, and want to do right by him. I agree that he knows my sincerity in my love for him. So, yes I am recovering from the affects that the JW's pushed upon me...but I am strong. I am just as strong going out as I was going in!
Harold, I wrote to Gwen on my other post, you both sound wonderful...thank you...please keep in touch
Blondie...keep in touch...we can help each other! :)
Sheila...you are right...the sisters were jealous! There were at least 6 of them hot and heavy for him, planning weddings and such. Extremely handsome (to die for!!) and his humor is out of this world!!
elders will be doing a shepharding call in 10 minutes...why we have not attended meetings in so long.
i want nothing to do with the organization anymore....pray for me that i can keep my strength against them!
!
Somebody,
Thanks for the replies. I read your husband's replies on my other post, he loves you dearly. I really do not have any "questions" at the moment, regarding the religion. I am pretty well confident that I no longer desire to be part of a corrupt organization that takes peoples consciences and turns them into spiritual police. Why personally question their beliefs if I cannot accept how they treat me. I do want to question their beliefe, only to show my husband, in hopes that he will understand that they are not who they claim to be. He is devout, but not active...does that make sense?
I told my husband last night, "You know, everyone in the organization is always searching for the negativity in others...what mistakes someone may have done in the past, present, and possible future, then they capitalize on those mistakes. Even someone's intentions are mistaken."
The JW's capitalize on rumors...not only are they rumors, but the actions are diseceted first by severity of the action, then reprecussions of the actions, and somehow....whatever mistakes one does...it always seems to be explained that because of your one mistake, you have affected the entire congregation, as in the following personal experience...
Before I met my current husband, I was previously married. We divorced. So...not only was I a non-JW marrying a JW...I was previously divorced, with two children.
My JW husband and I got married and as I stated prior, my husband's entire JW family attended the wedding, even though they did not approve. (Made for interesting wedding...his side all JW's; a brother who is an Elder, another brother who is a Ministerial Servant, a sister who is a Pioneer, and another brother who is disfellowshipped. Then my entire side was "worldly", as I had no JW friends) :) It was a beautiful outdoor wedding (obviously by the circumstances...a KH was out of the question!) married by a justice of the peace (obviously by the circumstances....even his Elder brother was out of the question.) The wedding went off without a hitch, everyone playing football and the kids went swimming in the pond all afternoon. Mixing JW's, ex-Jw, and "worldly"....hmmmm, I have to say that I somehow organized the day without anyone feeling out of place. (It was the first time that the family had gotten together since their mother's funeral)
BIG MISTAKE!!!!! Three months later, out of the blue one evening....My Brother-in-law, the MS, calls and asks my husband, "What scriptural reasons did Jacqueline get a divorce from her previous husband." My husband told his brother that I had no scriptural reason for divorcing my previous husband, but that we had understood through opur research that since I divorced my husband several years prior to studying, that I could not be held accountable for my actions prior to knowing the Truth. Everyone knew I was divorced...I had two children and I never hid the fact that I divorced the man. Well, my MS brother-in-law did not accept that answer. He got very verbal with my husband over the phone and hung up. I felt aweful, knowing that because of my prior actions before meeting my husband, I had now caused a problem between my husband and his brother. My husband reassured me that I was no way my fault.
The next day we received an e-mail from his MS brother, stating that since I did not tell anyone that my divorce was unscriptural, my husband and I betrayed everyone who attended the wedding, and compromised each and everyone's personal relationship with Jehovah. He said that he would have to inform the Elders at his Hall and that he would more than likely lose all of his privledges. He demanded that we go to our Elders and tell them of our "adultress marriage". He was furious that we invited him and the rest of his family to participate in an "adultress marriage." Ironically...not one other JW who attended the wedding, ever said anything. My husband called his other brother, which is an Elder,and he really did not believe that it was a big an issue as what their brother was making out of it. We went to our Elders inquiring of our marriage, and after several weeks, they came back to us, stating that our marriage is not an adulteress one, and that we are ok, in the eyes of the society. WHEW!! Close one!
Well...the MS brother never lost his priveledges, and we never did know if he even went to his Elders regarding the issue. After a few months of "cooling off", amends were made.
Gwen, thanks for listening. Giving you a little more info at a time. Yes, I would be greatly interested in the study of the Greatest Man who ever lived. We have a pretty complete JW library and I have the '99 CD...please tell me any info where I can show my husband their discrpenacies or anything...using their own literature and books!! THANK YOU!
where is the love that the societyclaims is amongst it's people?
i began studying january 2001. i had met a jw man that i truly fell in love with and found that i would at least look into the religion to see if it was for me.
i began studying with his sister, till she consciously no longer felt that she could continue studying with me, due to the fact that she did not approve of her brother dating me, since i was not a jw.
You all have brought tears to my eyes....thank you, sniff.
So, may I ask now...how do I fulfill my love for God now?
I know I cannot set foot in a "church", but I do not wish to
go to another Kingdom Hall, ever. What about the Memorial?
Isn't that something that God wants us to do? So how do we avoid
going to a KH or church, but yet still do what God wants?
