I had been out for more than a decade before I had the time to read his first book. It reinforced some of what I knew and opened my eyes to other incidents I had seen from the inside but didn't have the whole story.
Thanks Ray!!
the recent resurrected topic on franz' books got me curious.. how much did his writing contribute to your decision to leave?.
for myself, it was another brick in the wall but not more important than any other.
i was a little different than most in that i regularly read anti-witness stuff from the very beginning and never stopped.
I had been out for more than a decade before I had the time to read his first book. It reinforced some of what I knew and opened my eyes to other incidents I had seen from the inside but didn't have the whole story.
Thanks Ray!!
Welcome to the board Lori.
May your journey be kind to you.
putting this out there.....going back 12months ago i was completely different to how i am now.
i am still loyal to jah and dont go against the scriptures, but even though ive recently returned to pioneering (only aux pio at present) i see im a little more laid back.. i think this has come through having to endure hell and back without any help, except jehovah, which im not complaining, im so glad his been there for me, for us both.
but i really believe that due to things that have badly and wrongly been allowed to take place etc its moulded me a little different to how i was.
Nice thread AE.
The point you were working on this week was intellectual honesty.
In the theocratic book of homer intellectual honesty is defined
IH- which means keeping one's convictions in proportion to one's valid evidence. For the latter, one should be questioning one's own assumptions, not merely applying them relentlessly if precisely.
You have shown some progress but I am going to have to give you a W.
We look forward to you next week of posting.
Goshawk ;-)
i suppose mine is not uncommon (see below) but i have noticed it again of late and cannot deny the connection to excessively stressful events in my life.
i involuntarily keep my jaw clinched and within a day or so i get a piercing pain in my jaw up by my ear.
anyone have a cure for this?
I would never whoopin' the piss outta you sooner7nc.
about six months ago i setup a twitter account.
i posted a few tweets here and there and then got bored of it and stopped.. dispite the fact that i never tweet anything, every few days i get an email notice stating that another person has started following me.. why?
can anyone think of any reason why people would want to follow someone wo never tweets?.
You are more interesting than Ashton Kucher.
Ouch!!!
ok, im putting my neck on the line here but ive always believed that children should be raised to make their own choice, if to serve jah or not.. i wasnt ever forced to believe in anything, any religion etc, although my background is very complicated.. anyway, hubby and i have always thought that how can a child decide if they dont know what other things are, ie birthday partys, halloween etc.
so, our children are allowed to choose if to go places etc.
last year our little boy said he didnt want to go to a halloween party, this year he said he might.
Agreed Outlaw by accepting their definition of the word you give them more power.
Hang in there BT.
ok, im putting my neck on the line here but ive always believed that children should be raised to make their own choice, if to serve jah or not.. i wasnt ever forced to believe in anything, any religion etc, although my background is very complicated.. anyway, hubby and i have always thought that how can a child decide if they dont know what other things are, ie birthday partys, halloween etc.
so, our children are allowed to choose if to go places etc.
last year our little boy said he didnt want to go to a halloween party, this year he said he might.
In The Shape Of A Heart
It was a ruby that she wore
On a chain around her neck
In the shape of a heart
In the shape of a heart
It was a time I won't forget
For the sorrow and regret
In the shape of a heart
In the shape of a heart
I guess I never knew
What she was talking about
I guess I never knew
What she was living without
People speak of love don't know what they're thinking of
Wait around for the one who fits just like a glove
Speak in terms of belief and belonging
Try to fit some name to their longing
There was a hole left in the wall
From some ancient fightAbout the size of a fist
Or something thrown that had missed
And there were other holes as well
In the house where our nights fell
Far too many to repair
In the time that we were there
People speak of love don't know what they're thinking of
Reach out to each other through the push and shove
Speak in terms of a life and the learning
Try to think of a word for the burning
You keep it up
Try so hard
To keep a life from coming apart
And never know
What breaches and faults are concealed in the shape of a heart
It was the ruby that she wore
On a stand beside the bed
In the hour before dawn
When I knew she was gone
And I held in my hand
For a little while
And dropped it into the wall
Let it go and heard it fall
I guess I never knew
What she was talking about
I guess I never knew
What she was living without
People speak of love don't know what they're thinking of
Wait around for the one who fits just like a glove
Speak in terms of a life and the living
Try to find a word for forgiving
You keep it up
Try so hard
To keep a life from coming apart
And never know
The shallows and the unseen reefs
That are there from the start
In the shape of a heart
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Maybe I am weird but this thread reminded me of this song.
Growing up with the illusion of choices.
i finally saw that november 15th wt article on prayer that everyone has been talking about - the people in the photos look as stiff as corpses!.
people will be called in the back room for inadvertantly making contact with their spouse during prayer.. i think i will adopt the following stance during prayer now:.
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Doh!!!! Now I have to get a soap bottle too??
i suppose mine is not uncommon (see below) but i have noticed it again of late and cannot deny the connection to excessively stressful events in my life.
i involuntarily keep my jaw clinched and within a day or so i get a piercing pain in my jaw up by my ear.
anyone have a cure for this?
Hi Gregor,
Used to get the same pain when I would grind my teeth in my sleep, clench my my jaw with stress. A small piece of gum (sugarless is best) helped me to not clench, exercise also helped, learned some relaxation techniques.
Goshawk