on a previous thread many other "troublesome" verses have been brought up.
i will take some of these and start theads for them.
due to the complexity of the subject, several threads each covering one or two verses will be started, lord willing.
Still,
Try researching on the Trinity and try researching on the lies the Watchtower taught you to support their unitarian point of view. If the Trinity was a false doctrine, why would the Watchtower need to lie so much to prove that the Trinity is wrong. If they were correct, they wouldn't have needed to make any of the misquoting and changing bible verses and all that stuff you find in their Bible and books. - CA
in this series i hope to discuss some common verses used by the watchtower to "disprove" the trinity and deity of the lord jesus christ.
the first one is 1 corinthians 8:6: .
"but to us there is but one god, the father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one lord jesus christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Dean Porter, prove us your simple and straightforward explanations.
in this series i hope to discuss some common verses used by the watchtower to "disprove" the trinity and deity of the lord jesus christ.
the first one is 1 corinthians 8:6: .
"but to us there is but one god, the father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one lord jesus christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.
Dean Porter, Paul was not trying to give a lesson on the Trinity, he was just stating what he knew and believed (that both the Father and Jesus are God). Therefore, there was no reason to talk about the Holy Spirit.
Hooberus, Amen brother.
i'm reading some books wrtitten by greg.
i just wonder how you think of his thoughts.
thanx in advance for your comments.
So the guy wrote books defending the Watchtower, then gave up in time as he researched and found out the truth about the Watchtower?
is the jw religion that different from other religions, i am not talking about beliefs, but the set up and blueprint that they work from.. i had a great discussion the other day with 2 hetterites (not sure how to spell it) both in their mid-twenties, they talked about how they had just left about one month ago and were going up to fort mcmurray to work, as they talked about their childhood, their beliefs, their upbringing, their rules, do's and don'ts, i swear they could of been jw's, i mean they went throught the exact things that alot of us on this board went through, it was amazing and frightening.. not knowing alot about other religions, are the problems we went through with the jw religion any different from someone who is mormon, muslim etc.
etc., do all religions although different beliefs by far, basically have the same blueprint in runnning their organization ???
and controlling people ??
Odrade, are you sure she was from an Assembly of God? I've got some friends there and they are not really indoctrinated, they are pretty open-minded and show no signs of indoctriniation... whatever those signs might be.
why i can't anymore : sorry for my poor english, but i've tried hard !!
since the beginning of the time, till the 19th century and more, most of stories and songs for kids, was made to scary them with a moral at the end.
to me, the bible is one of kind of that type of book (for children we are inside).
Sixofnine, what do you believe to be God's Word then? Your mind, your conscience?
why i can't anymore : sorry for my poor english, but i've tried hard !!
since the beginning of the time, till the 19th century and more, most of stories and songs for kids, was made to scary them with a moral at the end.
to me, the bible is one of kind of that type of book (for children we are inside).
If you reject God's Word, aren't you rejecting God Himself? Or are you going to believe in God according to how you think you should believe in him, without the Bible as a guideline? You may believe in God, but do you have faith in him? Even demons believe in God.
why i can't anymore : sorry for my poor english, but i've tried hard !!
since the beginning of the time, till the 19th century and more, most of stories and songs for kids, was made to scary them with a moral at the end.
to me, the bible is one of kind of that type of book (for children we are inside).
By the way, I am totally against homosexual relationships. It doesn't matter whether its love or lust. God disapproves it.
why i can't anymore : sorry for my poor english, but i've tried hard !!
since the beginning of the time, till the 19th century and more, most of stories and songs for kids, was made to scary them with a moral at the end.
to me, the bible is one of kind of that type of book (for children we are inside).
I am also sorry that the Society has destroyed your faith in God. I believe God exists, the Bible was at some point accurate, and I will live by it. I also do believe that it has been changed over the years, edited, added, and cut off. But, God will know that I was trying to keep his Word, and it is not my problem that the Bible has been changed throughout the years. Those people who modified it will be judged for it when their time comes (or already came). Anyways, I don't believe there is no purpose to our existence, or that we are the product of evolution. Just look outside your window and you will see how God's creation is so perfect. Look at your body, and tell me if you believe it was made by coincidence, or if it is so perfectly designed that you know there had to be some external power involved. Also, tell me about death, do you believe we just die and that is the end of it? It's a weird way of thinking. In my opinion, people just try to either make God in the way they want him to be, like the Society, or totally deny him, so they can live in any way they want without remorse. The former seems to be the case in this post, many people whose faith in God was destroyed by a Society who wanted their faith placed in them. God bless you all, and I hope He brings you into the truth. - CA
according to john 3:13, "no one has ascended to heaven".
i've been wondering what this means, does it mean that no one but jesus ascended to heaven and came back to explain celestial things?
Onacruse: I wanted an orthodox answer to explain to share with a JW.
Robhic: Thanks for the information, its great and now I know.
