Posts by ESTEE

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December AWAKE entitled: The Truth About Christmas

by AwSnap in

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i just found an envelope outside my door.

as i picked it up, it felt a little heavy.

inside, there is an awake, and print-out, and a hand written note:.

ESTEE

AwSnap, you wrote about your father:

His priveleges were removed when I lived at home. I havent lived at home for 13 years, so he was able to become an elder a few years ago. I've always been VERY careful not to get caught when celebrating holidays. I hate causing a stir....hate causing conflict.

My feeling is that you carry much guilt because of your father's displeasure. Please know that you are not responsible for your father's reactions. After all, he is cult-conditioned. Every child has a right to grow up and follow his or her own path. Every child has a right to be true to himself/herself. Time to cut the cord, dear one. You are an adult living on your own now. You get to exercise
your free will, a most wonderful --- precious --- sacred gift for yourself!

I'm glad to hear you celebrated Christmas!

Cheers,

ESTEE

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WT Society wants Elders to Conceal Information to Psychiatrists- Elders Bk.

by flipper in

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my wife and i have read carefully through chapter 5 of the new elders manual when we do our " personal study " in bed on saturday mornings !

so without further delay , notice this quote from the new elders manual, " there are times when an emotionally distressed christian may seek professional help.

whether a christian or his family pursues treatment from psychiatrists , psychologists, or therapists is a personal decision.

ESTEE

Are not the elders selected by the Holy Spirit TM ?

So, if the elder is depressed, after being hand selected by the Holy Spirit TM itself...did the Holy Spirit TM fail???

ESTEE

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Blondie's Comments You Will Not Hear at the 12-26-10 WT Study (MEETINGS)

by blondie in

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3. how important are christian meetings?.

when more give comments,.

in making christian meetings upbuilding.*.

ESTEE

Dear blondie,

Dear one, you must be some kind of angel to be able to sit through those mind-numbing meetings. I have not been able to do that since 2000.

I Just couldn't possibly do it again.

Bless your soul

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How should I reply?

by hotchocolate in

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so i wrote an email to my brother to tell him that i love him and that it's sad that a religion has come between us.

this is the reply i got:.

stupid and ignorant.

ESTEE

I feel sorry for your brother.

I am proud of you for trying to keep in touch...and I am sorry you received a cruel response from someone who claims he is a follower of Jesus. But, I would not judge him, as he must follow his soul path, which in this case might be to experience life on the inside of a cult.

If you pray, you might pray for him. Myself, I put the names of my six brothers into a bowl and send positive vibes. I feel better doing something to deal with their separation from me.

Love,

ESTEE

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55 reasons Jehovahs Witnesses will never be reformed

by Hairyhegoat in

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found this on another site and you can use it on the witlesses when they knock the door.. 1. teaching that true christianity is an organization instead of a way of life .

2. claiming salvation is dependent upon belonging to the jw denomination .

3. claiming that the organization speaks for and is controlled by jehovah, thereby equating the organization with god himself .

ESTEE

Wonderful! Thanks for sharing.

ESTEE

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Thread for Dansk (RIP Dec. 20)

by alamb in

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just thinking about ian this time of year.

.

ESTEE

I remember and love Dansk

ESTEE

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Christmas visit from the elders

by MrFreeze in

yes the elders made another stop to continue to try to get me back to the meetings.

my main argument with them has been the incorrect dates.

607, 1914. they said i need to stop focusing on dates.

ESTEE

I'm proud of you MrFreeze!

I wish I could think on my feet that fast!

I liked Think About It's suggestions:

Is it a girl? Yes, the fact that both Russell & Rutherford divorced their wives and had mistresses. Is it alcohol? Yes, Booze Rutherford was a mean spirited drunk and smuggled alcohol freely into Bethel during Prohibition. Is it drugs? Yes, after reading up on Russell & Rutherford you would have to be on crack to stay in this crazy religion.

ROFL

ESTEE

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Would someone tell me please...

by ESTEE in

what is the purpose of god?.

estee.

ESTEE

LostGeneration, you gonna eat all that popcorn by yourself??? 'cuz I brought some wine.

TheTrueOne wrote:

POWER. The gods should have died with the civilization that individually created them ...... some didn't...... unfortunately

hmmm... yeah, I see what you mean.

sooner7nc wrote:

According to my admittedly layman's understanding of the Bible, his/hers/its purpose is to be a pretentious dick.

hmmm... yeah, a pretentious dick. Do you suppose that is why it has so many worshippers?

transhuman wrote:

God's purpose is to drive people crazy wondering what God's purpose is. She is a cosmic practical joker. Merry Christmas!

She is indeed! Merry Christmas.

Mad Sweeny wrote:

My guess is God was invented as an explanation for things early man couldn't explain. "Well, we don't know how THAT could have possibly happened. Some powerful, invisible being must have done it."

Makes humans sound really dumb, doesn't it?

Botzwana wrote:

Purpose?

Sinister

djeggnog wrote:

One can only speculate as to Jehovah's purpose, but from a study of the Bible, we can glean that God purposed mankind to procreate, beautify the earth and be caretakers over the animals.

Jehovah? Who was asking about Jehovah, a lower-vibrational entity with channeling ability, who used Pastor Russell to create a cult? --- and not even as strong as some Shamans? Not me.

Mrs Jones is right, the question was misunderstood.

As usual, I liked Outlaw’s answer: “The Porpoise of God”

I appreciate designs answer “Cosmic energy, very useful.”

moshe, I like the intelligence of your monkey. He is at least as smart as some religious people I know.

It is apparent to me that Jehovah's Witnesses have missed teaching their followers a very basic truth. Another good reason to leave the religion.

Best of the season!

ESTEE

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Did your wardrobe of clothes change when you left the JW'S

by Hairyhegoat in

mine did and i have not put a suit on since escaping the cult.

the mrs has given all but 1 away to the charity shops and i have loads more room in me wardrobe now.

what items of clothing did you get rid of when you got out of the cult ?

ESTEE

I have added dance dresses!

ESTEE

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Follow up from Hi

by WSEV12 in

i felt welcomed by the warm response i got to my last question.

my experience has been mixed in some christian forums and i am never sure what to expect but the people here do seem warm.. because i do not want people to feel threatened in any way - though it would probably be help to all - i usually try not to discuss my beliefs but some have asked what they are and it may be helpful to the nature of the question.. right now, i am going through a spiritual search and looking to see where i fit in.

i do have liberal beliefs about god and jesus and am not sure in what church i would fit.

ESTEE

William,

No one can make the church or religion choice for you, dear one. If a person wants someone else to make choices for him/her, then the JWs is the place to be. It is all about high control and rules.

Ultimately, each person has their own path to follow. No one can do the journey for you, and it is a journey of discovery---yours.

Best,

ESTEE