Should we be able to drop our kids at the social work department and ask them to take care of them indefinitely as we just don't fancy it any more?
lol, that's exactly what we can do, and have been able to do in the West for oo, 500 years plus.
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Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough
by AndersonsInfo inshropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.
features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.
yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.
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Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough
by AndersonsInfo inshropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.
features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.
yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.
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involve a mother dying and leaving children behind,
Once more, that's an emotive reason for intervention, but not an ethical reason... where is this "right to your birth mother" inscribed?
(I'm on to a nice cuppa tea now!)
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Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough
by AndersonsInfo inshropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.
features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.
yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.
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Gadget
a lifetimes worth of conditioning
That phrase can be applied to so many repellant aspects of human society that I find it hard to apply to the blood doctrine as if it makes the Witnesses exceptional. My father made an informed choice about whether or not to accept blood and he knew the risks. He refused and died. Whether or not a blood transfusion would have increased his life expectancy I greatly doubt, but I would rather he had made the decision he did than have the law force him otherwise. He was an intelligent adult who had converted over the age of 30, and despite 30 years of brainwashing was a sentient individual. His beliefes lead him to make what some may percieve as an irrational choice, but hey, the irrationality of humans is what results in love, delight and culture and i'm all for it.
My niece also required a blood transfusion when only a days old and despite her parents refusal, it was administered by the doctors without fuss or court and with a lot of respect for her parents position. I'm glad the law overruled her parents but if she chooses to refuse blood at 16+ (when it's highly likely that she'll need another operation) to run the risk of losing her life through the want of a blood transfusion then I respect her right to do so, as much as it would grieve me to lose her.
Hope all that makes sense, I've just knocked back a bottle of Veuve Cliquot (6year anniversary with the BF!).
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Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough
by AndersonsInfo inshropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.
features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.
yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.
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lol
I agree with what you say on an emotional level, but not on an ethical one. We're discuss the individual's right to control over their own body and in that contect the abortion question is relevant. And the "right to a mother" isn't a UNESCO article although you could possibly say it is covered in article 3 (Best interests of child). Not allowing the choice to refuse specific medical treatment because you can't comprehend the mindset and because of the hope & optimism in a wedding photo are not sound legal grounds, but they might be champagne grounds!
Christopher Hitchens is a beautiful writer but I wouldn't want to live in his world. Removing religion from the equation wouldn't automatically result in a peachy world as the impetus to control and dominate is intrinsic to humanity and science an alternative tool to be used to that end instead of religion.
I'm with John Gray on Hitchens, Dawkins and Dennet.http://books.guardian.co.uk/departments/politicsphilosophyandsociety/story/0,,2265446,00.html
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Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough
by AndersonsInfo inshropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.
features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.
yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.
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Besty
Does the mothers right to do what the hell she wants with her body because its hers, supercede the right of the newborn child to their natural mother?
I would still state yes. I believe that the mother's right to control over her own body supercedes the child's right to life, something more grave than the right to a natural mother. I would find it hard to accept your argument and still be pro-choice...
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Shropshire Star news editor examines issues behind death of JW Emma Gough
by AndersonsInfo inshropshire starapril 9, 2008. why would loving faith allow death?.
features news editor neil thomas examines the issues behind the tragic death of new mum emma gough.. words written by heaven knows who and attributed to moses have brought about the apparently needless death of a young shropshire mother, and blighted many other lives, more than 3,000 years later.. far-fetched, possibly.
yet, how else are we to interpret the death of emma gough?.
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I suppose I'm with Burger Time, the rights of the mother to choose trump the right of the child to a mother, unpalatable as it may be. Just as a woman has a right to a termination.
Just to clarify, the newspaper article doesn't say that the family are sueing the doctors, it's an inquest into the cause of death and the family have a right to representation.
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Not that there's anything wrong with it
by JimmyPage inover the years there have been brothers in the congregation that you just knew had to be gay but everybody just accepted them.
some even got to be servants or elders.
anyone here fit that description yourself?
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Yeah, I was one of "them" that even became an elder. It was crushingly depressing at times.
Was I sincere? Not about it being the truth, but the love for the people I grew up with and my family was immense and the reason I took so long to get out.
JG, you are such an authority on this arent you,
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In Memorandum of Charlie Heston.
by AK - Jeff inhttp://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080406/ap_on_en_mo/obit_heston_14.
what artistic achievements of this great actor stand out to you?
rip .
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I always thought his acting was wooden and without nuance, which is fine for blockbusters, but not really what i think of as good acting. He was always Charlton Heston and didn't really inhabit his roles.
A legend on a par with Ronald Reagan? lol. Someone needs to watch more movies me thinks!
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What Was The Silliest "Offense" That You Were Counseled For?
by minimus inwhen i was a teenager, i was told by an elder that because i smiled a lot and was known for my good sense of humor, that i should come across as "more serious".
so before i was appointed a ms, while in my late teens, i transformed myself into a much more "serious" brother.. were you ever told that you needed to work on something that you knew was stoopid?.
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No I sang, "Hang the School Overseer, hang the School overseer..."
Doesn't have quite the same ring to it! Mozzer lyrics were never spotted.
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What Was The Silliest "Offense" That You Were Counseled For?
by minimus inwhen i was a teenager, i was told by an elder that because i smiled a lot and was known for my good sense of humor, that i should come across as "more serious".
so before i was appointed a ms, while in my late teens, i transformed myself into a much more "serious" brother.. were you ever told that you needed to work on something that you knew was stoopid?.
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I got counselled for using the word "smorgasbord" in a talk. I can't recall what it was referring to and to be fair, me and my friend did try to incorporate words that made us laugh, or song lyrics - usually The Smiths. And yes, sideburns and hair length cropped up periodically.