I always thought that JWD was good because it had room for those that have got over it and those who are caught in the trauma. I've been on here for almost 5 years and the topics are all very repetitive but that's the nature of the beast. Don't like a thread? Don't read it or participate in it. But embracing the forum's diversity has worked for me.
scotsman
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Who else is tired of the Just Get Over It threads?
by sass_my_frass ini have started this thread so that every time i see a new one i can point out how old that idea is.
congratulations.
it's great that you have obviously been able to get out without being harmed in some way - really, i'm happy for you.
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How ethical is it to sow DOUBT in the minds of sincere Jehovah's Witnesses?
by nicolaou inwe know that we can't always take the direct approach and we know that even a short, reasonable discussion is often out of the question with jw's we may love dearly so we often try to place a little doubt in their minds.
we want them to start questioning cherished beliefs.. is this fair of us?
are we placing our our own agendas ahead of their needs?
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scotsman
I'm still with KK, being there for them if they express doubts is fine but attempting to damage their belief system is counter productive.
The apostates that helped me out were warm and charming and we never once discussed religion unless I raised it and even then they were never critical of some of my (in retrsopect) mind blowingly crazy ideas. And I think the seed of doubt is rarely sown, we can only water it if it already exists.
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How ethical is it to sow DOUBT in the minds of sincere Jehovah's Witnesses?
by nicolaou inwe know that we can't always take the direct approach and we know that even a short, reasonable discussion is often out of the question with jw's we may love dearly so we often try to place a little doubt in their minds.
we want them to start questioning cherished beliefs.. is this fair of us?
are we placing our our own agendas ahead of their needs?
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scotsman
Are we placing our our own agendas ahead of their needs?
Yes.
Is this fair of us?
That's harder to answer. I'd say it's human and that its fairness is moot.
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Public talk will be reduced to 30 minutes
by martinjw7 inhave you heard about a letter for all congregations announced next new change in wts politics?.
in letter is information that the time for the public talk will be reduced to 30 minutes.. does anyone have a copy?
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scotsman
Can confirm that this is true. Letter came in at the weekend apparently.
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IT IS TIME FOR A___CONFESSION!
by Terry inthere is an old-fashioned definition of the word "confession" which is the public expression of one's deepest faith and belief.. take a deep breath and give a one or two paragraph summary of your deepest belief.. i'll go first.. from the time i was a small child i had a deep and abiding reverence for god as a father.
(my own father i never even met until i searched and found him when i was 25 years old.
) my grandmother had been raised in a catholic convent.
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Terry, I'm an ex that got waylaid by Nellie on the road to Mandalay.
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IT IS TIME FOR A___CONFESSION!
by Terry inthere is an old-fashioned definition of the word "confession" which is the public expression of one's deepest faith and belief.. take a deep breath and give a one or two paragraph summary of your deepest belief.. i'll go first.. from the time i was a small child i had a deep and abiding reverence for god as a father.
(my own father i never even met until i searched and found him when i was 25 years old.
) my grandmother had been raised in a catholic convent.
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I confess that belief and disbelief in god have always been irrelevant to me.
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Question for my friends on the other side of the pond
by loosie inis wanker a bad word in the uk?.
or is it like telling someone there are a goober?.
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scotsman
As with the previously discussed cnut, context and intent are everything. With friends it's inocuous, against strangers it's offensive.
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Anyone have a parent who is gay?
by Ziggy ingood afternoon!
my apologies if this has been asked before, but i am wondering:.
(1) if there is anyone on this forum, who has a mom or dad who opened up that they were gay?.
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scotsman
I'm not in your situation but... I resigned as an elder and stopped attending meetings at 30 revealing that I had never believed in god. Family upset but not shunning. When I came out 1 year later one of my brothers and his family decided to shun me despite me not being disfellowshipped. We discussed their hypocrisy of finding my disbelief in god easier to deal with than me having a boyfriend but hey ho somehow the gay thing was much worse.
Sorry I can't help, but even more sorry your kids have behaved like this. Hopefully time will make a difference.
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I'm Attending the Memorial
by RichieRich inmy lovely girlfriend and i sat down over a homecooked meal, and discussed the pros and cons of attending the memorial.. i decided, with her support, that we would attend.. i spent years of my life pretending to be a witness to please my mother.
when i left the witnesses, my mother said some hurtful things.. and those things really hurt me... for a while.
but i established myself as my own person, developed my own relationships, and have gotten a good start on my own life.. i don't know that i want to hurt my mother back, but i do want to make it abundantly clear to her, my grandmother, and all the members of my former congregation, that richierich is alive and kicking.. and i think that walking into the kingdom hall, dressed respectfully in a suit, yet with full piercing jewelry intact, and with erika wearing something classy that steals the brother's eyes, and draws glares from the humble sisters, will be just the thing to send that message to my mother.. i don't plan on partaking or making a disturbance.
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scotsman
Hey Richie
Good luck, but... if i read correctly you haven't had contact with your mon and gran for 10 months. Seeing them may make you blub like a baby and may not feel like closure. Closure in 10 months after 18 years would be a frickin' miracle too.
I went through all sorts of plans when I left from knocking back all the wine at the memorial to turning up at an assembly in drag (looking fabulous but fierce). I have no regrets about not doing them.
But again, best of luck.
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Pan's Labyrinth
by Mystla inhas anyone here seen this movie?
if there has already been mention of it, i'm sorry, i've been afk off and on quite a bit the last month or so and have missed a lot of threads.. this is one of those hard to categorize movies.
it's a fairy tale.
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scotsman
I loved it. The merging of reality with fantasy was seamless. Reminded me of the role of faith in society.
But the best Spanish film from last year has to be Volver - it was heaven.