Posts by scotsman

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Can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?

by digderidoo in

jw
friends

i have looked at the thread about gay marriages in california and thought about asking this question there, but instead of hi-jacking that one i thought i would ask it here.

there seems to be quite a few gay people on this site and i wonder how many class themselves as christian?

if so, can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?.

scotsman

don't think this should be an option for any christian, gay or heterasexual. Either you accept scripture in it's entirety or you don't. How can some scripture be divine and others not?

Paul, you need to meet more Christians, they're not all so fundementalist. The Christians I'm thinking of would argue that the scriptures reflect their times, and they are no longer obliged to avoid shellfish or silence women. While JWs and a good number of contributors to the board take the bible literally, it's not quite so in the big wide world.

You said you didn't have an agenda but your statement provides a very narrow definition of Christian.

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Gay Marriage - The War for Equality

by Inquisitor in

i've just read lola28's thread "for those against gay marriage".

i thought i should present a clear message on what i think the gay marriage issue is all about.

the trouble with most discussions on this issue is that it gets clouded by a plethora of side-issues, non-issues, cave-men chest-thumping and medieval puritanism.

scotsman

Ta-da! A solution that everybody should be happy with. So why is nobody fighting for that?

Lead the way FD & BTS! But as I guess there would be even stiffer opposition to your proposal, then fighting for samesex marriage is a little easier.

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Can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?

by digderidoo in

jw
friends

i have looked at the thread about gay marriages in california and thought about asking this question there, but instead of hi-jacking that one i thought i would ask it here.

there seems to be quite a few gay people on this site and i wonder how many class themselves as christian?

if so, can being gay live in harmony with being a christian?.

scotsman

in the same way that cohabiting unmarried heterosexual Christians reconcile their life with scripture... very few christians I know take the Bible literally or accept all it's edicts. I guess gay Christians just ignore or reinterpret the few scriptures that appear to discriminate against them.

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The End of Circuit Overseers

by scotsman in

is indeed apparently nigh as another poster predicted along with the end of the weekly bs.

not sure when this should take place but i'm reliably informed by a family member that one of the uk's overseers was talking about it fairly recently.

reduced to weekend visits by an outside but local elder instead.. i have no further info..

scotsman

Get a grip folks! We need something called proof.

Anyone got any???

Such as? lol I edited my initial post as I didn't want the source of the conversation identified, so who going to post anything more definite. We're apostates seeker, we can't ever provide "proof". But I do love reading the dizzyying hypotheses that have resulted!

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Are They Really Going Mainstream?

by WTWizard in

i have seen a number of threads lately that suggest the washtowel slaveholdery is making moves toward going mainstream.

notice a few examples.

the stand on people that are incorrigible being the only ones that are going to die at armageddon is one cited fact that people are pointing to.

scotsman

OK, they're not going to become the established church with the monarch as titular head but... I look at the folk I've left behind and they have fulltime jobs, decent houses, new cars and foreign holidays. The time spent at meetings is about to get less and in this part of the world pioneering is not nearly like it was in the 70s & 80s.

Yes they still have crackpot beliefs - specifically blood and shunning - but their lives seem significantly less alternative than they were some time ago. They seem... diluted. By money and a few wordly friends.

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The End of Circuit Overseers

by scotsman in

is indeed apparently nigh as another poster predicted along with the end of the weekly bs.

not sure when this should take place but i'm reliably informed by a family member that one of the uk's overseers was talking about it fairly recently.

reduced to weekend visits by an outside but local elder instead.. i have no further info..

scotsman

sweetpea - it's a bit like hoping for the new system...

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The End of Circuit Overseers

by scotsman in

is indeed apparently nigh as another poster predicted along with the end of the weekly bs.

not sure when this should take place but i'm reliably informed by a family member that one of the uk's overseers was talking about it fairly recently.

reduced to weekend visits by an outside but local elder instead.. i have no further info..

scotsman

slimboyfat

Kudos to you, I couldn't remember where I'd read the suggestion, sorry for not giving you credit. Perhaps you should morph into 'seerboyfat'

steve2

I like it!

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The End of Circuit Overseers

by scotsman in

is indeed apparently nigh as another poster predicted along with the end of the weekly bs.

not sure when this should take place but i'm reliably informed by a family member that one of the uk's overseers was talking about it fairly recently.

reduced to weekend visits by an outside but local elder instead.. i have no further info..

scotsman

Change is what the org does. I'm always rather suprised at the excitement on here. the IBSA/WTBTS has continually mutated in belief and structure just as most religions have. Their own book (can't recall the name of it) charts it. So it's not a sign of the end of the religion, just them adapting to the times/technology/economy.

I've always been suprised that the district conventions have continued when they could make model talks with good speakers and pop them on a dvd to be watched at circuit sized events. the districts are a nightmare logistically and unneccessary expense.

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The End of Circuit Overseers

by scotsman in

is indeed apparently nigh as another poster predicted along with the end of the weekly bs.

not sure when this should take place but i'm reliably informed by a family member that one of the uk's overseers was talking about it fairly recently.

reduced to weekend visits by an outside but local elder instead.. i have no further info..

scotsman

my thoughts - i see no mass sacking just a gradual retirement and implementation of new scheme. They struggle for temp COs round my way. It'll be JWlite and more mainstreaming in my opinion.

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The End of Circuit Overseers

by scotsman in

is indeed apparently nigh as another poster predicted along with the end of the weekly bs.

not sure when this should take place but i'm reliably informed by a family member that one of the uk's overseers was talking about it fairly recently.

reduced to weekend visits by an outside but local elder instead.. i have no further info..

scotsman

Glad that everyone's taking it as speculation. I thought I'd run the forecast by my JW relative today to see what they thought and their response was immediate confirmation but that's not guarantee it'll happen this year.

Hello bethel, I'm sure you're reading. (I'd wave at you if there was an appropriate emoticon)